![]() |
|
|
|
Somewhere in the Midwest
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the barn!
Posts: 12,499
|
[QUOTE=Hugh R;3568978]Just saw this thread. Here's mine, an original cafe racer. Except this one isn't a poser. Check out my signature. Its unrestored original.
![]() QUOTE] Wow. Where does one come about owing such a machinery? You don't just walk onto a used car lot in the midwest and find such a thing...Love to hear your story on it. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4,362
|
Jeff, the Sportster is perfect for such a project. However, imo, it would be a shame to change such a clean looking old Sporty. That said-
![]() cafe sporster link- http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/10/22/harley-davidson-sportster-cafe-racer-by-hogbitz/ |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4,362
|
|||
![]() |
|
Detached Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: southern California
Posts: 26,964
|
I inherited from my Dad about 30 years ago. He bought it in 1935 from the guy that raced it for the factory. In 1930, Rudge placed 1st, 2nd, 6th and 7th at the World Cup at the Isle of Man, this is the sixth place bike. Its was my Dad's daily driver through the 30's and 40's. Since it didn't have a generator (or is that gererator?) he hooked a batter and a light onto it to drive at night. I still have the battery case and headlight which were none stock. It runs believe it or not. I took it up to the All British Bike Meet in San Jose in April of last year and it actually won "Best Road Racer" and "Oldest Bike". I put oil/gas and air in the tires and several guys pushed and it started right up. I new it would start because I made sure of that a few days before. In fact after several years of non-use (OK, ten years). I pushed it down my driveway and it actually fired up the second I dumped the compression release. It doesn't have a kick starter. Its a 500 cc single with a four valve head. As a Grand Prix Ulster, it came with a factory guarantee of 100 mph. If you look at the 2nd pic you can see the holes in the side of the tank where the factory converted it from hand-suicide shift to a foot shift. It sas a manual spark advance as one of the levers on the handlebars because they hadn't invented mechanical timing advance yet. The lower front fend support is actually a kickstand and I owned the bike for a number of years until I figured that out. The foot brake contols the front and rear brakes, and can be biased. Its a dry sump engine. There is an active club in England, of which I'm a member.
__________________
Hugh |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4,362
|
Jeff - can't have too many bikes. Leave yours stock and get the facory version 77xlcr-
![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Higgs Field
Posts: 22,575
|
Funny, when I first started riding Sportsters (I went through three between my 16th and 19th birthdays before sticking with the one in the photo) I had a couple of chances to buy XLCR's. They were dirt cheap then and nobody wanted them. I held out for a "real" Sportster. One of my room mates had one, and was actually kind of ashamed he couldn't afford a "real" Sportster. Just amazing... The best bike H-D was building at the time, and absolutely rejected by us bunch of knuckleheads.
Anyway, thanks for the links, guys. I'll check them out. This might be kind of fun... If I go anywhere with this, you can bet I'll stash all of the origninal parts that come off. I still have the original seat, bars, big ugly plastic gauges, crappy old Bendix carb, and everything else I have removed or replaced over the years. Someday this old pig might actually be worth something... In the meantime, I'll keep having fun with it.
__________________
Jeff '72 911T 3.0 MFI '93 Ducati 900 Super Sport "God invented whiskey so the Irish wouldn't rule the world" |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Somewhere in the Midwest
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the barn!
Posts: 12,499
|
Thanks for the story Hugh. Great history!
![]() ![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Detached Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: southern California
Posts: 26,964
|
Souk,
Is that yours? That's very cool
__________________
Hugh |
||
![]() |
|
Somewhere in the Midwest
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the barn!
Posts: 12,499
|
Hugh, that's not mine. It's a KZ400. Here's the thread I found it in:
http://www.armbell.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3429&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=42ca1ac7c5a70c4e5c3c7fc05c8818b4&mforum=kz400 |
||
![]() |
|
drag racing the short bus
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
|
I'm really digging this thread. The bikes are gorgeous; they're the sort of stuff a road cyclist likes.
So I have a question: if I wanted to build a cafe racer, where do I start? What's a good bike to start with? Four stroke? Two stroke? A modern motorcycle or something older? ![]()
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Fullerton,Ca
Posts: 5,463
|
Slo-bob
anymore info on that silver bike?
__________________
" Formerly we suffered from crime. Today we suffer from laws" (55-120) Tacitus |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4,362
|
DD74 - That's the cool thing about Cafe racers. You can start with pretty much anything. Check out that KZ Souk posted. Beautiful and who'd a thunk it? Naturally, there are some bikes that lend to the conversion more readily. Check out the Benjies site -
http://www.benjiescaferacer.com/home.html that will give you an idea as to what bikes have parts (somewhat) available. The Honda CBs are a natural as they are plentiful, cheap, and reliable. I have 2bikes I'm considering a conversion on - the 66 CB160 pictured above which is a very common cafe base, and a 75 CL360. Not as common but parts are available and I think the upswept pipes will look very cool straight and wrapped. Jim - Do you mean the Borile? http://www.caferace.com/borile.html |
||
![]() |
|
Somewhere in the Midwest
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the barn!
Posts: 12,499
|
Bob's right, David. You can start with most any old bike (obviously a chopper won't be easy w/o cutting frame. etc). Old standard bikes are good starts. Then just strip it, slap some clip-ons on the thing (or something that makes you ride forward and low), cut the pipes (make it loud) then go get some old leathers
![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 4,362
|
Quote:
cb160 cafe racers on the track- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_o07_Hg53U ![]() Last edited by SLO-BOB; 11-05-2007 at 06:40 PM.. |
||
![]() |
|
Ghost Spoiler
|
some cool cafe's in here - i think i'm gonna get a project on the go
btw - heres the real candy cane ![]() one of my favs ![]() and one more... ![]() probably been listed on this thread, but i mostly just looked at the pics so here it is again, if its again?? more @ http://indian.no/ click on caferacers - theres a good half hour to spend there ![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Vafri
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 2,144
|
Not a cafe racer, but it's mine. Scratch built inspired by a 1910 H-D with a Whizzer Engine.
![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Writer/Teacher
|
Ok, I have the bug, big time. I want a Triumph Bonnie soooo bad....
__________________
Current Stable: Black 07 Porsche 987 Cayman S: Long-Tube Headers; FabSpeed Exhaust; VividRacing ECU Tune; IPD Plenum; 997GT3 Throttle Body. Blue 1983 Porsche 928S. 1985.5 Porsche 944 Rat Rod. 2011 Acura MDX. 2008 Mazda 3. Gone But Not Forgotten:Garnet Red 86 Porsche 951("The Purple Pig"). Alpine White 83 Porsche 944 ("Alpine Wolf"). Guards Red 84 Porsche 944. |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
|
My own photo isn't scanned, just an old Polaroid, but I had one of these for awhile back in the mid-90s...
The original factory 'cafe racer.' ![]()
__________________
techweenie | techweenie.com Marketing Consultant (expensive!) 1969 coupe hot rod 2016 Tesla Model S dd/parts fetcher |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Registered
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 321
|
My TD 2B is living in my parents basement. I need to collect it and rebuild the engine..... another winter project.
![]() I don't have any digital pictures of mine but a representative example borrowed off the web(picture is of a 3 but you get the idea): ![]() Ed |
||
![]() |
|
Writer/Teacher
|
Something like this would do nicely:
![]()
__________________
Current Stable: Black 07 Porsche 987 Cayman S: Long-Tube Headers; FabSpeed Exhaust; VividRacing ECU Tune; IPD Plenum; 997GT3 Throttle Body. Blue 1983 Porsche 928S. 1985.5 Porsche 944 Rat Rod. 2011 Acura MDX. 2008 Mazda 3. Gone But Not Forgotten:Garnet Red 86 Porsche 951("The Purple Pig"). Alpine White 83 Porsche 944 ("Alpine Wolf"). Guards Red 84 Porsche 944. |
||
![]() |
|