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Jeremy Cottrell 07-10-2008 01:44 PM

Crap! My girlfriend's flight is coming in at 8:30.

Rot 911 07-10-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banning (Post 4052294)
The 17 feet of stainless oil lines in the car are sufficient enough to cool the oil without an external oil cooler. I had one and had to remove it because the car never reached operating temp with the aux cooler.

Sure you didn't just have a defective thermostat? The thermostat shouldn't open until the oil temperature gets over at the very least 180 degrees.

Jeremy Cottrell 07-10-2008 01:50 PM

Chris, does the car even HAVE a thermostat for the external cooler? Should be located in the right rear wheel-well.

gostraight 07-10-2008 02:02 PM

hello kids!!
Look at all this great stuff I missed over the last couple of months!!!
Good to see everybody is still here and Chris's car is almost done..right?
Wish I could make it tonight, unfortunately I have a hearing @ the city and the last one I went a few months ago went way past midnight.
Hope to see you guys at the next one!

slodave 07-10-2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Cottrell (Post 4053210)
Chris, does the car even HAVE a thermostat for the external cooler? Should be located in the right rear wheel-well.

If it did, it doesn't anymore. The oil lines run on the floor on the right side. They come through the firewall in the back, never even going near where the thermostat would be.

Jeremy Cottrell 07-10-2008 02:59 PM

Aha, that's why she never got up to temp. It would be a good idea to install a thermostat and a proper front cooler. Depending on the front bumper, we could install one of our TRE RSR replica front nose pieces.

Banning 07-10-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfot (Post 4053191)
What time again?
I'll try to make part of it at least.


Around 8:30 just east of Laurel on Mul.

slodave 07-10-2008 04:50 PM

I'm 90% sure I'll make it.

Banning 07-10-2008 05:07 PM

Oil Thermostat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 4053298)
If it did, it doesn't anymore. The oil lines run on the floor on the right side. They come through the firewall in the back, never even going near where the thermostat would be.

Here's a view of the front compartment.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215738368.jpg


The reason why the thermostat isn't in the back right-rear is because it was relocated along with the alloy 16 quart oil tank to the front.
This was done to bring the weight distribution forward since a 911 is "rear heavy".
The Thermostat housing is from one year only, a 1972 911 with aux cooler option. (Oil tank in front of rear wheel)


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215738385.jpg


The custom fabricated oil tank was hand made by John Mason himself.
It is wedge shaped at the bottom (never grabs air) to prevent oil pressure drops in hard turns.
It is heavily baffled to prevent foaming of the oil.
It fits beautifully in the gas heater compartment and extends all the way to the chassis underside.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215738403.jpg


These are the locations where I ran the lines to and from the aux cooler long ago.
I mostly drove at night, that's probably the reason that it never got hot.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215738426.jpg

KevinP73 07-10-2008 05:08 PM

I'm dying to get out but a recent illness has me laid up. Between the ailment and the meds I don't think you'd want me on Mull in a pick up truck.
Have fun y'all and maybe post some pics for those of us who couldn't make it.

slodave 07-10-2008 05:10 PM

How in the world does the oil filter work with only one hose going to it?

Banning 07-10-2008 05:45 PM

Oil lines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 4053502)
How in the world does the oil filter work with only one hose going to it?

The Thermostat/oil filter housing is designed so that when a certain tempurature is reached, the oil is re-directed to the upper oil line fitting where it then goes to the aux cooler.
After passing thru the cooler, it is returned to the oil tank via the blue fitting on the top of the oil tank.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215740711.jpg


It's very convenient to have the oil filter right where it is. Easy to change, and no longer protrudes into the engine compartment.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215740729.jpg

nize 07-10-2008 05:50 PM

chris, is that a giant VW filler cap i see? what's the story behind that?

also, can you provide more information about the air/oil separator? who made it? how's it constructed? are they still available?

slodave 07-10-2008 05:55 PM

From the frontal pic, I could not see the other hose. It looked like only one hose going into the thermostat. Your other angles cleared that up. Thanks.

Banning 07-10-2008 06:08 PM

Gas Cap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nize (Post 4053571)
chris, is that a giant VW filler cap i see? what's the story behind that?

also, can you provide more information about the air/oil separator? who made it? how's it constructed? are they still available?

Ha, Ha, Ha, I'm glad to see you're paying attention.

Along with cut-off drip rails, a lowered roof line, and a flush rear window, all to make the car more aerodynamic, I wanted no gas door. Arnie flushed it with the body at my request before painting.

The reason that the gas tank has this unusual aluminum cap that only comes from certain old VW Transporters is that I wanted to be able to put my hand into the gas tank to be able to grab a cup or two.
You see, before I installed the cold start mechanism the motor was sometimes difficult to start without a little fuel being poured down the injection stacks.
That's the reason I had Arnie install that weird gas cap, hey at least it's from the same family and it's fun to put your hand into the tank. ;)


The air/oil separator that you are asking about is my own design.
After much fudging about, I found this small alloy tank that I installed a breather to. All from Earl's Supply, lol.
Every so often, I remove the drain plug from this small tank, and fuel comes out that has seeped into the oil supply during engine running.
I could probably recycle the fuel back into the motor like a "Still Suit" from DUNE.
Good questions nize.

Noah930 07-10-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Tonight we are having a Mulholland meeting at Truckstop.
Man, I gotta read this thread more frequently. Either that, or start getting it wired into my cellphone for instant updates. Hope you guys had (are having) a nice night on the hill.

Banning 07-10-2008 09:36 PM

Tonight on Mul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 4053889)
Man, I gotta read this thread more frequently. Either that, or start getting it wired into my cellphone for instant updates. Hope you guys had (are having) a nice night on the hill.

We had a great time at Truckstop hanging out and then we all drove to dirt Mulholland real slowly.
Then we watched some of the best racing scenes from King of the Mountain on laptop. Cool!
We got some funny looks from other cars that were driving by.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215754568.jpg



The crickets were out and chirping loudly. It was a fair evening with just a hint of a breeze.
Thanks to all who came out this beautiful summer evening. (Jeff, Dave M, Derek, Chris (porcupine), Dave (vintagespeed) and Jane)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215754593.jpg

Jeff Hail 07-10-2008 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinP73 (Post 4053500)
I'm dying to get out but a recent illness has me laid up. Between the ailment and the meds I don't think you'd want me on Mull in a pick up truck.
Have fun y'all and maybe post some pics for those of us who couldn't make it.


Kevin
It was mentioned tonight that "the whiskey lullaby" was out of tune. We missed you and hope for a swift recovery. All kidding aside ...seriously it just isn't right without you.

Jeff Hail 07-10-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nize (Post 4053571)
chris, is that a giant VW filler cap i see? what's the story behind that?

also, can you provide more information about the air/oil separator? who made it? how's it constructed? are they still available?


I picked up on that the first time Chris popped the hood. Love it. Now he just needs the drilled/ lightened ignition key like the 917's to go with the cap.

Jeff Hail 07-10-2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banning (Post 4053923)
We had a great time at Truckstop hanging out and then we all drove to dirt Mulholland real slowly.
Then we watched some of the best racing scenes from King of the Mountain on laptop. Cool!
We got some funny looks from other cars that were driving by.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215754568.jpg



The crickets were out and chirping loudly. It was a fair evening with just a hint of a breeze.
Thanks to all who came out this beautiful summer evening. (Jeff, Dave M, Derek, Chris (porcupine), Dave (vintagespeed) and Jane)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1215754593.jpg


Not sure if its just me but the eye's reminds me of a Halloween flick! Oh what the hell we are enjoying the moment.


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