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MidnightCircuit 12-02-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeverlyhills (Post 10676326)
Better driving too hopefully. That is a terrible line in that direction.

let me know when you're free so you can show me the right line, I live down the road and can be here pretty quick! SmileWavy

mrbeverlyhills 12-03-2019 05:00 AM

Maybe Sunday morning? I don't drive the course aggressively at night anymore; couple of places where resident's sprinklers cross the apex. And although you can see approaching headlights, you cannot see someone parked, enjoying the view and maybe crossing Mul for a better look.

I pretty much stick to early morning runs in good weather and stay on my side of the double yellow. With this weather we have been having, the shady parts of some turns will still be damp and if cold enough, icy.

I come off in my original post a little abruptly, can see why you might be defensive, I didn't mean to. But you don't need me to tell you the sim driver is all over the road, hitting the shoulder at one point. Having driven this stretch of Mul for 30 years, sometimes too fast and sometimes in a carpool, I know for certain you really don't want to be in the dirt with 2 wheels on the drop side.

Good luck with the sim, looking forward to seeing it finished. There are many lines one can take, happy to show you mine one day in the 92 C2/5.

MidnightCircuit 12-03-2019 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbeverlyhills (Post 10676705)
Maybe Sunday morning? I don't drive the course aggressively at night anymore; couple of places where resident's sprinklers cross the apex. And although you can see approaching headlights, you cannot see someone parked, enjoying the view and maybe crossing Mul for a better look.

I pretty much stick to early morning runs in good weather and stay on my side of the double yellow. With this weather we have been having, the shady parts of some turns will still be damp and if cold enough, icy.

I come off in my original post a little abruptly, can see why you might be defensive, I didn't mean to. But you don't need me to tell you the sim driver is all over the road, hitting the shoulder at one point. Having driven this stretch of Mul for 30 years, sometimes too fast and sometimes in a carpool, I know for certain you really don't want to be in the dirt with 2 wheels on the drop side.

Good luck with the sim, looking forward to seeing it finished. There are many lines one can take, happy to show you mine one day in the 92 C2/5.

I would love to see that - I should also preface that I would not dirt drop in real life either :eek: I will keep you all updated as the map gets further developed.

juanbenae 12-03-2019 08:37 AM

watched a documentry the other night on the capitan, William Mullholland on amazon TV that chronicled his life and the st francis dam failure east of LA in 1928. had never heard of the event, or knew anything about WM. very interesting if you have an hour or so to kill in front of the TV.

nameisbauer 12-03-2019 08:38 AM

MidnightCircuit, Props on building cool course. Apologies for experts critiquing something you are showing in the beta stages. I'm pretty sure you tricked a few people thinking it was real, which is a compliment. See what times people put down when its done.

mrbeverlyhills 12-03-2019 08:39 AM

Chinatown, the movie with Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunaway is a dramatization of the man and the era of bringing water to LA. An Oscar winning classic.

mrbeverlyhills 12-03-2019 09:44 AM

Deer too. I was stopped with a group of cars near The Summit as the one in front had hit a deer. The front of his SUV was just crushed, leaking fluids. All of us urbanites stood around arguing over what to do for the poor deer, when it suddenly jumped up and ran away.

Change of undies all around.

nize 12-03-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MidnightCircuit (Post 10675522)
Working on something. Here's a sneak peek.

https://youtu.be/-yG5_McHQyw

that looks nice! suggestion to add the glow from the city lights from down the valley at night, that's one of the things i've noticed gives mulholland the unique appearance.

MidnightCircuit 12-03-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nize (Post 10677100)
that looks nice! suggestion to add the glow from the city lights from down the valley at night, that's one of the things i've noticed gives mulholland the unique appearance.

That will definitely be included!

MidnightCircuit 12-03-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10676941)
OK, if I'm wrong, apologies offered but the driving in the YT 'teaser' video looked very real to me.

I have no friggen idea how to create software data for a sim, but I guess mapping is an important part. Mapping that is with a car on the course. But I'm pretty sure that can be accomplished at much slower speeds in the proper lane w/o all the histrionics. IOW, I'm pretty sure you don't have to go over the cliff in a crash to have that feature in the sim.

So therefore, you don't have to drive on both sides of the center line to get the data needed. Furthermore, more that stock, even if improved, headlights are needed. Like some rallye lights for a wider field of vision doing this at 3 am or whatever. Even in just the correct lane. Hit a mountain lion and see what happens.

The map was generated using an elevation map created by google - for most of SoCal google has it down to 4 cm resolution. We did not go out to the road to make this, although I used to commute this road from the west side to hollywood every night for a few years.

Noah930 12-03-2019 03:05 PM

Don't forget the perma-trickle of water running across the middle of the Sweeper.

RWebb 12-03-2019 03:13 PM

and elderly billionaires crossing the road in front of you after checking their mailboxes

Mr. Merk 12-04-2019 05:26 AM

I was looking at the route between skyline and cold water. There is only two intersecting strees (on just one side of the road) and one driveway near coldwater. Not bad!

MidnightCircuit 12-04-2019 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 10677331)
Don't forget the perma-trickle of water running across the middle of the Sweeper.

i'm gonna try to add that now lol

Noah930 12-04-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Merk (Post 10677833)
I was looking at the route between skyline and cold water. There is only two intersecting strees (on just one side of the road) and one driveway near coldwater. Not bad!

One time (last year?) I was doing an early morning weekend run along the Racecourse. As you noted, there are no driveways/houses along this stretch of road so pedestrian traffic is uncommon. But there can be cyclists/joggers/tourists, so I keep that in mind. I came around a corner (driving in spirited fashion, of course) and was surprised to see a very attractive woman (slender, short tight dress, heels) likely doing the walk of shame along the side of the road.

I guess I shoulda stopped and offered her a ride, but that woulda messed up my run.

MidnightCircuit 12-04-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 10678007)
One time (last year?) I was doing an early morning weekend run along the Racecourse. As you noted, there are no driveways/houses along this stretch of road so pedestrian traffic is uncommon. But there can be cyclists/joggers/tourists, so I keep that in mind. I came around a corner (driving in spirited fashion, of course) and was surprised to see a very attractive woman (slender, short tight dress, heels) likely doing the walk of shame along the side of the road.

I guess I shoulda stopped and offered her a ride, but that woulda messed up my run.

Your priorities were straight.

Manda Racing 12-08-2019 08:26 PM

I wonder if my old cycling club still runs that circuit Sunday around 9:00am?

TCracingCA 01-26-2020 06:16 PM

I see all of my picture posts were taken out, when the photo service Tiny Pics went down.

I see I can't edit those, to reload them. Thank sucks, if anyone wants to see those.


I am still hoping the video game guys do both Mulholland and Turnbull Canyon Raceway

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1580094910.JPG

Banning 01-28-2020 08:24 AM

Update
 
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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10374631)
I know it sounds like a broken record, but is there any info on the new book or Chris' car build?

I built this in '65 and '66 to go up to Mulholland. Never made it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1551728962.jpg

So, a duck tail in '65 and a center fill cap. Now when did Porsche come out with the duck? :D
Oh, not the same since it's not half way up the rear end. Oh well.

I built the car to beat up on 289 Cobras. By the time it was finished the Cobra 427 was out. Another oh well.
Story of my life.

Finally getting caught up with some of my projects.
I'll get up to speed (so to speak) and post some new information and make some corrections to what has been posted recently.

First I'd like to share an email sent to me from Rich Adams.

Rich did the last full edit of The Mulholland Experience which we could have printed as a Second Edition but I felt it would be better to do something entirely new and much more complete as to the Story of Mulholland Racing. This has turned out to be very time consuming.

Subject: Mulholland Experience

>> Happy Holidays Chris:

>> Jackie and I were just talking about a book recently written by a distant half cousin of mine that was well written (I found very few errors and he’s a professional journalist.) Jackie asked me about the status of your book.

>> I think it’s about time you put a high priority on the rewrite of your great book. All the really big work is completed and with a little help from your friend (me) It could be easily realized.

>> I believe the subject of your book has GREAT appeal and would be a good seller (unlike my half cousin’s book). It’s time you turned your little lemon into a lot of lemon aid and become your pride and joy as originality intended.

What do you think?

Your friend,

Rich

Banning 01-28-2020 08:35 AM

Update Continued
 
This was my response to Rich's Email:

Hi Rich,
> Thanks for your good thoughts. It's been on my mind also.
> This past year was quite distracting due to Plumbing troubles, Car problems, over-congested garden problems, dead trees, and the like. I have since cleared out my "too big" garden considerably. I have eliminated three of the seven Cactus Gardens. I chainsawed out almost all the dead trees numbering around 40. This has freed up more time. I finished the restoration of the 1970 El Camino and sold it. Also sold the Modena in November which helped a great deal with more space and resources. I replaced the 66 Gallon Electric Water Heater in Summer after 2 weeks of no hot water. Jane was really inspiring me to complete that job. I had to re-plumb some of the copper pipes. Then the 2" Main waterline began to leak which I had to repair. I was able to do some of the Car work but it was limited. The White 1973 Porsche is back in the House Garage where it belongs next to the Carrera. It needs new Cam Chains and Tensioners (at least). The Carrera needs a new Rear Main Seal. During the year I was able to get the needed parts to complete the 1973 Targa which is just outside the Garage Door. I gave away many of the parts that came with the car like Front and Rear Bumpers, Wheel Spacers, Turn Signal Housings, and a Whale tail, most of it to my friend the Automotive Designer named Radu. You have his painting in your living room I believe. I introduced you two at the Ferrari Owners Club Election Brunch years ago. I still have some Porsche Parts to give away like Carrera 4S Suspension with Coil-Overs and some other stuff like a Factory Hood, etc.
> I still need to finish the Grandfather Clock that is half done, fix two more plumbing issues, do some metal work like complete the base for the Vertical Grand Piano and the base for the large Ceramic Fountain, and lastly finish restoring the Type 34 Spyder and the 1972 4x4 Camino Monster Truck
> So, getting back to what we were originally talking about...
> I agree it's time to get Cracking.
> As we previously talked about we will be taking certain Chapters out of The Mulholland Experience, adding Chapters to complete the missing information, inserting at least 40 more photos, adding John Hall's Story (Chasing The Kings) as a complete Chapter, and changing the size and cover of the Book with our new Mulholland themed title. This time we will have a more complete Story with all groups listed with a Roster for each group and all cars listed. We will talk about this more when I see you next time.

Best Regards,
Chris


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