Pity poor me....

Warren just came out and said it... HA dingbat. Coming from anybody else that may sound insulting but from him I know it was a well thought out observation from an experienced, deep well of knowlege. How bout we call that book...
"Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus, and God Almighty drives a Porsche... how to fix everything"
Early S, thanks again your posts around here worth everty binary string that sends them.

Ha! Dingbat Maybe I'm biased because that is what the Ex goes by now... at least when she isn't listening

I'm with Blue on this one!
My wife was thrilled with her engagement ring, which was purchased with a months salary 4 yrs ago. Now I'm earning double that and offerered to upgrade! but she declined!?.
It's not always how much you give but the way you give it and the sentiment.
Tis a good time to find out what she is really made of- concider it a test!!
Remember ' size is not important!'.
and I do have a big johnson!.
"Don't I honey!"
reply ......"No comment!"

My sister received a 2ct. diamond ring for her engagement.... quite frankly, it looks stupid... what a garish thing to wear on your hand (something like that should only be mounted in a necklace)
If she doesn't accept a good quality ONE carat ring gracefully, then I believe you will have uncovered her true nature, and she should hit the road. Demands for foolish things only get worse with time, not better. Your love should be her only concern.
regards,
jlex.

Tires man,....THINK TIRES!!!

Some comparisons: The cars are much like the ladies. If you have an older model, it's likely that it will take more time to warm up.The newer the model, the faster it goes. Like your girlfriend, the Porsche will be a high maintenance item, requiring top shelf service. As for service...I trust you will have equal enjoyment servicing both. If one provides more enjoyment than the other than the choice should be easy.
Now the car's not going to ever ask for something it doesn't need..however, it will usually let you know what it needs to keep functioning. Ladies have a knack for asking for the unneeded and if not satisfied will usually choose to stop functioning too.
As the years go by, washing, cleaning and shining the car will always take about the same amount of time as it always did. The amount of time she'll require to wash and shine will increase dramatically during those same years.
Just remember: girlfriends usually enjoy Porshes while (some) wives rarely want one in the garage.

Richard,

You know how sports figures always say 'It's not about the money!' ... when it's ALWAYS about the money? Well, it's the same way with women, except, really, it's about control!!!

I guess the ring would be more meaningful if you bought it, and had it cut and crimped in your nose!

Seriously, I cannot imagine how anyone purported to love or understand you, could ask for that kind of ring, knowing that your project car would sit unfinished and covered up ... if that is really the sacrifice you will have to make in order to get her the ring!

It would make more sense to spend $5K on a set of 9 & 11 x 15 Fuchs from Earnie's Alloys in Miami ... than to buy that ring! Or get a super-engine that will rev to 9000 rpm, from Bob Norwood in North Dallas ... at least you would have something to be proud of, rather than a problem to complain about!

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Warren Hall
1973 911S Targa

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25K is a heck of a track car. That's all I'm saying.

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DUMP HER!!!!!!!!

If she is the woman for you, then the cost of the ring is really irrelevant, assuming that you can afford it. So if you are sure about her then let the car sit a while.

The other question here is whether the 'things' are ever going to stop. Is this ring just the 'thing' that she wants now and will she want something else in six months. If all you are to her is a source of things then get in that car and lay rubber!

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Steve Eidson
81 SC

Hey Rich...being a goldsmith, I can make you a gold wedding ring with a stupid size stone for WAYYYY less than 25k...we could use a Gem quality CZ and I will throw in my labor for a wedding present, you buy the gold and stone, I will make the ring...I figure about $350.00 max...then you can finish the project and drive up and take me for a ride...John


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Geez....2 carats....? I had a 1.5 carat that was left to me from my Grandma, had a few flaws and it was BIG....traded it in for a 1.2 carat...flawless blue white.

Mom-in-Law still called it a headlight. Either way run away dude....25K for a bauble? No freakin way.

The Porsche will always be there, will not mind when you wake it up for a midnight ride, WILL sleep in the wet spot, won't ***** at you, will not leak for five days and then suddenly dry up, won't have a cranky mother, and....etc, etc, etc....

Are there any women out there who are reading this thread??? I'd love to know their reaction to our comments. (No profanity, please)
regards,
jlex.

Heheheh.... you guys are BRUTTTALLLLL!!!

Maybe taking the old creed "There is no substitute" a little too far?!!

OK, I should have clarified something.... She would be perfectly happy with a .5 carat rock... but... all her girlfriends are marrying older, rich guys (we're talking Modena and Diablo territory here) and getting 2 and 3 carat stones. Hey, she's a great girl and I don't want her girlfriends to pity her the way ya'll pity me!!!

As you can see from the pic, I'm FORCED to chauffer her to Victoria's Secret from time to time, so she can't be all that bad. Jeez, if she ever saw this thread, you Porsche guys would all be branded for life!

So, what keeps a guy happy and young.... his 911 habit, or a young lady?
http://animotion.com/clients/michelle_911.jpg

Go with the CZ in a nice 18k setting. I can get a 3ct from my mother-in-laws cheap. She wore it for 8 years and was very proud of it. After the divorce she needed some cash and had it appraised, thats when she found out it was CZ worth all of $900.00 (nobody knew the difference). It obvouisly didn't bother her to wear it when she thought she had a diamond....no it sits in a box.

Steve said it well!

And, the women that read this board ... if my experience with women that drive , own, co-own, work on, or aspire to do any of the previous, regarding Porsche's was typical ... would probably echo the sentiments of the previous posts!

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Warren Hall
1973 911S Targa

Despite the brute fact that women can do things (one, for sure) for you that your car can never do, I prefer cars now. Having said that, I am also concerned about the future....

You see, I have been reflecting lately on how subjective most of our judgments are. Often we are depressed because something is not going right. We have a need (material, emotional, whatever) and if that need goes unmet, it can become very disturbing to us. "Well," I think to myself, "what if I were a starving Ethiopian ten-year-old girl with AIDS?" In other words, why can't I be happy with what I've got. I've got a lot to be happy about. But this disappointment thing, particularly as it applies to material possessions, is a sickness that gets worse over time.

A final comment. I'm not gonna criticize your girlfriend. As I've said, materialism, and selfishness, is a sickness that kills its host, and she may be developing this downward spiral, but I'm not gonna call her a gold digger or a dingbat. But I'm gonna agree with Warren one more time. It's about control. Trust me. It's about control.

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'83 SC

Well spoken Superman Jim, well spoken. I suppose that I am as sick as Motion's girlfriend because I feel like I "need" SSI's and dual exhaust. Although I do believe I will glean more pleasure from driving with these than from wearing an accessory on my finger. Maybe a diamond encrusted hood emblem is a better comparison.
Nick.

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Nick Shumaker
1982 911SC Coupe

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Two sure ways to screw up a perfectly good relationship are (1) to let the power balance get out of whack and (2) to focus too much on money.

If the Porsche is important to you, by all means keep it -- you have got to do things to keep your own identity and happiness. The car is for you and the ring is for her; neither have to break the bank. If you sacrifice what you really want for her whims, I would think that is bad precedent.

If I were you, I would buy a gorgeous, diamond crusted ring with a .75 or 1 carat diamond on top. When she sees that wall of diamonds on her finger, they will think it is breathtaking and not notice that it is mostly made up of inexpensive smaller diamonds. Same with her buddies. The beauty is the thing, not the money. The whole thing will cost you under 10K if you go to a wholesaler. If her buddies scoff at a truly beautiful 1 carat package, she'll know them for what they really are.

I vote to keep both the car and the girl.

Maybe it's time for her to find some new friends (unless they give you a '97 Turbo S as a wedding gift).

My gal's friends are in the 1.5 - 2 carat range as well. She doesn't care, near as I can tell.

Or: tell her you can get her the 2 carats if she buys you a Modena.

blue

[QUOTE]Originally posted by motion:
She would be perfectly happy with a .5 carat rock... but... all her girlfriends are marrying older, rich guys (we're talking Modena and Diablo territory here) and getting 2 and 3 carat stones. Hey, she's a great girl and I don't want her girlfriends to pity her the way ya'll pity me!!!

Don't take this the wrong way, but it seems like the money pit and I'm not talking about the car. I've been there, done that. On my second and she loves the car and loves me. The one conclusion I have about relationships and cars, is that you can fix a bad or needy car, but there is no fixing a bad relationship.

Run Forest, Run!