excellent condition, is a visible benchmark on used goods
anybody buying parts, knows that

unless you magnaflux every part you think of selling, each seller would have to list his part as "looks good, but not sure if it's mechanically sound"... now, honesty aside, i doubt it's a selling technique that will go down in history as "awesome"

As I tried to point out in a previous post, this failure is happening on some new, just-out-of-the-box 9" Fuchs as well as used ones.

If A Fuchs wheel is repaired, it's obvious. If the crack was created by an impact, it's easy to see. If it's a metallurgical flaw, it is not easy (or even impossible) to see.

Somebody needs to be contacting PCNA, not pointing fingers at private parties.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1181929488.jpg

Is it possible that the stress that finally exposed the crack occurred when the tires were mounted?

mounting tires usually wouldn't stress the center

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PatrickB
You missed out on one important factor Dari!
These wheels, while in fact used, were represented as being in "Excellent condition."

Not really - I did say, "old used FUCHS, no matter how pretty they may look, ain't perfect (they are old and used) - no matter WHO says they are."

And I admit that, "I've learned (the hard way) that a seller's wonderful claims can be hype, lies or true. Regardless, I now judge for myself, then take my chances - or not."

It seems to me that some are assuming that Fast Eddy falls into the liar category. I personally am not comfortable making that assumption based on the info presented on this thread.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by svandamme
excellent condition, is a visible benchmark on used goods
anybody buying parts, knows that

QUOTE]Originally posted by techweenie
Somebody needs to be contacting PCNA, not pointing fingers at private parties.

Sorry but I need to play devils Ass_ole here.

I am not saying anything either way about either party but...

Maybe the crack happend that night you flew past me doing drifting stunts and hit that curb?

:rolleyes:

I have had way too many people buy stuff from me, improperly install it, Run it into the ground, Fry the hell out of it, and then Blame me. NOT saying that is what happened... But how does the anyone really know for 100%? And how many of us have "accidentally" ruined something we bought from Best Buy and returned it with an innocent look on their face... You know who you are!!!

Well, knowing Chris, and knowing of his cautious driving tendencies, I can vouch that it would be highly unlikely that anything HE did caused this problem. Show off and reckless he is not - not even slightly.

Personally, I can honestly believe that Eddy did not know of the crack (which I still think was probably there, lurking just under the surface). However, I also think that he really should try to reach a compromise on this issue.

If it were me, I'd feel horrible about it and I would take it back and give him back the money on the wheel. But that's just me and how I operate.

I think his devil-may-care attitude toward Chris' plight is just wrong.

techweenie,

You continue to mention this is a problem on 9x16's. While I understand that abuse can cause lots of bad things. Do you know if the 15x7/8 wheels have had any history of cracking out with no apparent abuse? I'm hoping that the 1" less diameter 15" centers are incrementally stronger then a 16" would be.

It was just a little tension breaker...:D

I do not believe there are any other configurations of Fuchs that commonly have this problem. I don't believe abuse is involved. It happens in normal street driving.

I believe the mid-spoke crack flaw may be confined to a couple "runs" of 9 X 16" Fuchs. I believe this was all discussed online in a couple forums in the past -- perhaps on Pelican, as well.

Scott - You take a "brotherly" perspective on this matter and that's laudable.

Fast Eddy apparently takes a "business" perspective on this matter and that's,...well, that's business.

Maybe Fast Eddy's attidude isn't "devil-may-care" but rather simply "I disagree".

Agreed, the world would be a better place if your perspective prevailed. But unfortunately it doesn't.

David
(Am I still safe cuuizin' thru Los Viejos?:) )

Or... Tensioner breaker?? :eek: :D :D

:eek: :D :D Ohhhhh! Badda Bing!!

David, your welcome through here any time, bro. :D

Strictly judged it is difficult to blame the seller, but from an honorable point of view with the unfortunately short 'life span' of the wheel with the new buyer it would be a nice and reasonable gesture from the seller to cut the price slightly or take it back.

Sure, buying used items is a risk and if the crack was noticed after a few months it is a different story. But almost immediately after bringing them home would make me as a seller feel very bad (right or wrong). I wouldn´t hesitate to change the original deal to make the buyer happy. But strictly speaking..

I just an email to PCNA and see what they might say if anything. Thanks for the idea.

Oh man....:rolleyes:

Oh man....:rolleyes:

Any idea if this is for the pair
 

Patrick:

Did you actually confirm that this price was for a pair? The picture shows a pair but I didn't see where a pair is in the price ... it could be for just one wheel.

Also do you know anything about these Euromotors guys?

Read the quote that you copied carefully. He said "...for $800 each."

And he actually bought them about six months ago. :)