Any you thought NSA wiretapping was bad...Read this.

[SlowToady]

Well with everyone complaining about the NSA wiretaps a few months back, I feel kind of obligated to share this. Isn't it great how as citizens, we can't do **** about it?

PPOT Brain Trust..are we getting less and less Free, or am I just paranoid?

http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/08/wiretap

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Not to worry, I'm sure some of the usual Hitler Youth will be along shortly to tell us how "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".

Great motto for a "free"country, isn't it?

[john70t]

First merchandise gets implanted RFID's, then farm animals, then convicts, then all newborns.

Exploding collars are now available in an assortment of styles. Look for the sleek new Air-Nikes at Christmas time, avaolable at all local retailers.

[sammyg2]

No, I didn't think the wiretapping was bad. Yes, you are paranoid.
Sounds like Porsche-o-phile thinks free means being able to do illegal stuff and not get caught. it doesn't. You wanna do the name calling thing, I ask what are you doing that you don't want them to know about?

There are lots of countries on this planet. Feel free to pick a better one ito live in if you think you can.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Not shocking. It sounds as if the actual wiretaps still require a court order, fortunately.

[john70t]

Not under the Domestic Terrorism Act. That title can be viewed several ways.

[NICKG]

germany circa 1932= USA 2007

[cashflyer]

Safety and liberty are not compatible ideologies, and personal freedom is an antiquated concept that is no longer relevant in a modern world. Who are you to complain about a loss of personal liberty when the result is the safety and security of our country, our citizens, and our future?





(j/k. Power to the people!)

[stealthn]

Just to add, ALL email goes through their intercept computers before it reaches it's destination.

Just throw together a slang email like " that ***** was the BOMB, man what a KILLer bod, and BADass BUSH" and someone will be knocking at your door...

[cashflyer]

If all my email goes through their system, they should do something to stop all these damn advertisements for penis power pills.

Boytoys always srieked at me and even chaps did in the urban lavatory!
Well, now I smil at them, because I took Me - ga - Di k
for 4 months and now my phallus is indeed more than federal.
[link removed]

[onewhippedpuppy]

.....and now my phallus is indeed more than federal.

Awesome. Why don't I get the good enlargement ads?

[Gene Wilkes]

shhhhh........big brothers is reading these messages!

[john70t]

With all those secret funds they've gotten, at least they could buy faster computers. The Pelican site is now as slow as sludge.

[Rearden]

Originally Posted by NICKG

germany circa 1932= USA 2007

Did you make that up all by yourself?

[john70t]

Originally Posted by NICKG

germany circa 1932= USA 2007

What? Staged attack, followed by a power coup suspending all checks-and-balances, and unlimited corporate cronyizm funding, and a dissenting group to harass.

Nope, not anywhere close.

[Moneyguy1]

As far as our current society is concerned, ask yourself this question:

What is the difference between ignorance and apathy?

I don't know and I don't care.

[stealthn]

Carnivore - now replaced with commercial software: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(FBI)


Really what they are doing in watching everything: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-6154457.html

"Safety and liberty are not compatible ideologies, and personal freedom is an antiquated concept that is no longer relevant in a modern world. Who are you to complain about a loss of personal liberty when the result is the safety and security of our country, our citizens, and our future?"

WOW I can't believe I read this coming from an American. In my opinion this is far more dangerous thinking than fighting for your rights & freedom.

[cashflyer]

Bob... I think you overlooked the last line of my post.
Personally, I think our government has been too far over the line for far too long.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by john70t

What? Staged attack........

You are an idiot. Did Elvis tell you that? Please, leave your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories on your nutball websites.

[futuresoptions]

How far is too far? How far along do we let things get before we stand up? Illegal imigration as an example we took too long to stand up on that issue and look where we are with that situation..... How far do we let things go.......