Prove there is a DEVIL

[kang]

Originally Posted by Moneyguy1

Kurt:

Define "now". It is one of the most tenuous concepts known to mankind. Some philosophers posit that thee is no such thing as "now", since it cannot be grasped.

Kang: Who said anyting about religion in my post? It is the inherent selfishness and self centered attitude of so many that I find depressing. The attitude of "What's in it for me" seems to be beneath what should be a fulfilling life. If some find the concept of a higher power helpful so what? Even AA uses the concept to help people learn how to stay sober, and they do not advocate that it must be a God. In addition, no matter if it is Buddha, Moses, Christ or a Hairy Muffin, if it helps some people channel their lives, what is the harm? Why try to convince people continually that they are "wrong" when you, yourself do not have provable absolute data one way or the other. That is what makes your arguments no more valid than tekkors. Both convinced they are right, but only posting opinions.

I have had life experiences that I cannot explain. That does not mean there are not explanations, only that I am not aware of what those explanations are. I prefer t think there is a meaning to life that transcends this limited existence, based on the scientific hypothesis that matter and energy cannot be destroyed, only changed (or interchanged, if you refer). We, with our limited senses cannot see ultraviolet, cannot sense microwave emissions from the galaxies but we have learned how to detect these. What future findings may reveal, none of us can be sure. And, that philosophy is as valid as any other, but I will not attempt to convince you ar anyone else that I am right and you are wrong.

I refuse to limit myself in my thinking. Infinite possibilities.

I think I’ve posted a lot more than opinion.

First of all, there is the theory that humans have an innate tendency towards religion. A good starting point for this idea is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotheology I’ve posted some other articles on this as well. You can go back and find them in the other thread.

I have also posted links to articles detailing how early humans created the concept of god. This is a good one: http://www2.selu.edu/Academics/Faculty/mrossano/recentpubs/religious_mind.pdf There are others.

Both of these ideas go way further than “opinion.”

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by sjf911

Well, at least I don't hallucinate about invisible buddies. By the way, greed is relative not absolute.

I have never seen God. No one has said we can see God, scriptures tell us to look. It is in the looking that we begin to understand God.

Greed is not relative, perhaps there is more greed or less greed, but it is still greed.

[72doug2,2S]

How did we all get over here talking about God again?

[kstar]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

How did we all get over here talking about God again?

The devil made us do it.

Best,

Kurt

[Moneyguy1]

Once again, kang...I have read a number of pro and anti diety books. All of them postulate similar arguments. On the surface, the arguments can appear logical and compelling. The facts of the matter are, that each side's arguments are founded on a base of sand. No matter how many articles, opinions, theories, et cetera are proposed, they do not meet the basic conditions required for a scientific analysis.

Belief, or non-belief is an internal thing. Like I have said before, anyone who takes the stand that they are "right" and everyone else is "wrong" is delusional at best. I would just hope that people, over time, will learn at least basic tolerance on both sides.

[snowman]

Remember this post is about the DEVIL, not any god. Please stay on topic.

[trekkor]

The devil is a god to many...


KT

[dewolf]

I think snowmans the devil. His constant religious ranting is akin to reverse psychology. The more he speaks the more we hate religion. The work of a true devil.

[slodave]

[dewolf]

Originally Posted by slodave

lol

[slodave]

Al Bundy also believes in G-d...

"The Ferguson"

[snowman]

Real Americans know who is the Devil. The Devil is in people who disrespect traditional American views. Traditional American views are the Norman Rockwell picture that you often see when traditional American values are mentioned. Norman Rockwell was a real artist in that his paintings actually reflected the values of the American people. Those are the views that made this country great.

Those that denigrate those views and Un American. Their views are poison to the American way of life and our country. I can only hope that someday real Americans will rise to the occasion and weed out this poison, this threat to our society, our American Culture, a Culture that is superior to any culture the world has ever known. If lesser cultures are left by the wayside, so be it, the world will be a better place.

[wastintime]

my ex wife.... if any of you knew her you'd believe in the devil too

[frogger]

Originally Posted by snowman

Real Americans know who is the Devil. The Devil is in people who disrespect traditional American views. Traditional American views are the Norman Rockwell picture that you often see when traditional American values are mentioned. Norman Rockwell was a real artist in that his paintings actually reflected the values of the American people. Those are the views that made this country great.

Those that denigrate those views and Un American. Their views are poison to the American way of life and our country. I can only hope that someday real Americans will rise to the occasion and weed out this poison, this threat to our society, our American Culture, a Culture that is superior to any culture the world has ever known. If lesser cultures are left by the wayside, so be it, the world will be a better place.

Looks like the devil out'ed himself.

[stuartj]

Originally Posted by frogger

Looks like the devil out'ed himself.

Yes, it seems that not content with painting "christians" as bigotted myopic homophobic xenophobes , Snow seems now intent on remaking his countrymen in his own rather sad image.

[sjf911]

Originally Posted by snowman

Real Americans know who is the Devil. The Devil is in people who disrespect traditional American views. Traditional American views are the Norman Rockwell picture that you often see when traditional American values are mentioned. Norman Rockwell was a real artist in that his paintings actually reflected the values of the American people. Those are the views that made this country great.

Those that denigrate those views and Un American. Their views are poison to the American way of life and our country. I can only hope that someday real Americans will rise to the occasion and weed out this poison, this threat to our society, our American Culture, a Culture that is superior to any culture the world has ever known. If lesser cultures are left by the wayside, so be it, the world will be a better place.

Well, looks like "real" Americans are loosing the breeding war.