help us decide where to relocate....

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by The Gaijin

New York City is about the only place to live in this world. Other places are nice, and great to visit, but NYC is the best place to live.

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Yes, please encourage everyone to stay right there in NYC. We love you guys right where you are. You have a beautiful place, you really shouldn't leave.

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by islandmanpa

Go for the coastal areas! Gets very hot in Charlotte mid summer! Traffic sucks too!

Up in Asheville the summer tend to be cooler, when we were up there in July the nights were in the high 50's with the high of 83 happening at 3 in the afternoon. The summer up higher are very mild.

Originally Posted by osidak

Why are you selling jim

Slow economy in Florida it making it difficult to maintain 2 homes. If we sell the vacation home we are mortgage free again and breathing easy.

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

Move west young man!

Ashville is beautiful, but the further west you go, to a point, the more friendly the people are. I recently left the crowded east coast after 15 years for some Indiana elbow room.

-Nice people here.

Some of the most polite people I have met in a long time I met up in NC. I ran into the Sylva City Manager at the gas station one afternoon. He was driving a 20 year old Pickup full of dogs. He was really down to earth and we jawed for about 20 minutes. Even though I was a vacation owner he was really nice to me. One of many examples of really nice people not to mention to Pelicans that live in the area, they are awesome too.

Come out to the Dragon meet we are having Nov. 9th-11th at Fontana Village and meet the locals.

[TerryBPP]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

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Yes, please encourage everyone to stay right there in NYC. We love you guys right where you are. You have a beautiful place, you really shouldn't leave.

Ditto. I finally got to go to your pride and joy Manhattan when I was 18. I could not get over how bad the city smells lie pi$$. I will never forget it. And creeps are a dime a dozen.

But to each his own. Most hate SW FL, I call it home.

[The Gaijin]

1/4 of the USA population can trace at least one ancestor to New York City. We let them in, give 'em a veneer of civilization and send them out. More than a few move her from the heartland for a second dose. Them we send them out again. Few get to stay.

[The Gaijin]

Originally Posted by TerryBPP

.....got to go to your pride and joy Manhattan when I was 18. I could not get over how bad the city smells lie pi$$. .......And creeps are a dime a dozen...

That is what you got hanging around Times Square and 42nd Street - pre Rudy Guliani..

[Jims5543]

Originally Posted by The Gaijin

That is what you got hanging around Times Square and 42nd Street - pre Rudy Guliani..

I grew up in NY on Long Island and went to the city a lot as a late teen before we moved to Florida.

I returned back in 2000 after 16 years and I was just amazed how much NYC had improved, it was nothing like the 80's.

Anyone that has not been there in the last 7-8 years needs to go back and have another look. Its a lot different now.

The piss smell is only in some of the subway stations now.

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by Jim Cesiro

I grew up in NY on Long Island and went to the city a lot as a late teen before we moved to Florida.

I returned back in 2000 after 16 years and I was just amazed how much NYC had improved, it was nothing like the 80's.

Anyone that has not been there in the last 7-8 years needs to go back and have another look. Its a lot different now.

The piss smell is only in some of the subway stations now.

I was last there in the late 80's. God that place was filthy and smelled horrible. I truly could not understand why anyone in their right mind would WANT to live there. If what some of you are saying is true, sounds like it got cleaned up a bunch......Still couldn't stand living in any big city, but that is just me. I can't imagine life with out having a yard other than in my college days when life was all about partying every night. To each their own though, no doubt, many people like city living.

[onewhippedpuppy]

I'm with you Tim. To me, big city life means crime, high living costs, traffic, and indifferent a-holes. To each his own, but for me it's no thanks. Fun to visit, not to stay.

[azasadny]

St Augustine, FL!!

[Rich76_911s]

I don't know what you do for work, but I bought my last 911 in Charlottsville, Virginia and man was it spectaculary beautiful. Great porsche roads the people seemed great, and the weather seemed really good too. I bought it in April and had snow when I left Philly and when I got down there it was 65 and beautiful. I know that is just one day, but it seemed like it is continuously warmer than up here. The other good thing, if you are like me, you still get the change of seasons, but to a less degree in the winter.

And actually winters in Colorado are 110% better than they are in Ohio or anywhere in the north east, both temperature wise and sun wise.

Good luck with the move.

Rich

[FastCarFan]

Originally Posted by bell

i'd rather deal with a hot summer than a cold winter

Remember, you can always put more clothes on in the winter up north, but you can only take off so much down south in the summer. And the A/C sucks in old Porsches!

I have lived in the south (FL & OK) & in the north (OH, MI & MA). Personally, I don't like hot summers, & I love to ski. If I could pick a city to live in Burlington, VT would be near the top of the list. Great skiing, great mountain roads & a great lake for boating. And it is a nice size, a college town & pretty progressive.

But what really matters is you & what you want. Best of luck finding a new place to live.

[bigchillcar]

vermont is probably very nice. i spent several weeks in northern new hampshire last summer (littleton). it was absolutley breathtaking. one of the biggest things i noticed right off the bat having never spent much time in the northeast was how much more well-maintained everthing outside seemed to be..very neat by comparison to arkansas for example. of course nh probably had a 100-year head start on arkansas on being a state.

[RickM]

I've been to the NYC quite bit throughout my life. I have to say that Rudy did truly clean it up. I enjoy most of what it has to offer.

FWIW, quite few people I know have moved to NC. Southport is one spot that a few have migrated to and they love it.

[Palum6o]

"...yo Adrian!!"

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

I was last there in the late 80's. God that place was filthy and smelled horrible. I truly could not understand why anyone in their right mind would WANT to live there. If what some of you are saying is true, sounds like it got cleaned up a bunch......Still couldn't stand living in any big city, but that is just me. I can't imagine life with out having a yard other than in my college days when life was all about partying every night. To each their own though, no doubt, many people like city living.

I've been there half a dozen times before and after Sept 11, 2001. It is clean, if you mean there isn't trash blowing down the street, it isn't clean if you mean can I smell urine on every corner and there are several layers of greasy grime covering streets, buildings and sidewalks.

[berettafan]

Been to NYC a couple times in the past few years and if i ever hit the big lottery (gotta start buying tickets first i guess) i'd own a place there. Absolutely fascinating place. Very alive and vibrant. Wouldn't live there permanently but would love to stay a week at a time there throughout the year.

The worst of NY that i have seen has been from the outlying areas. Greasy goombah punks with 10lbs of gold chains and smelly ass luxury cars (what do they put in those things?!). They come to our beach town and open up junk shops selling counterfeit goods of very low quality and generally turn the area into an old school 'swap meet'.

My feeling is if you're going to live somewhere you might as well be looking at something spectacular on your drive to work every day. Whether it's mountains or an ocean...or both!

[Normy]

Man, whenever I wind up in New York on an overnight, if I have any time at all I get on the train and go into Manhattan! I don't think I could live there [way too cold for me, and I just prefer a little more room], but it's fun to visit.

I'm 100% Florida. I like Fort Lauderdale/Broward county the best. Palm Beach county is either blue hairs or criminals, and Miami-Dade county is either Spanish-speaking or criminals. Both places have crime problems. Broward on the other hand is a younger crowd, quite diverse, and much less crime than the other two counties. It's also clean and the downtown is fantastic.

I've lived in West Palm Beach [boring and borderline dangerous], Vero Beach [boring!], Orlando [sprawl, bad traffic, rapidly increasing crime...though it has a great downtown scene], and Daytona Beach. This last is probably the worst city in Florida. I don't go there unless I absolutely have to, and don't even like driving past it on I-95.

If I could afford it, I'd live in Key West. I like the funky "Margaritaville" atmosphere...even if it really is kind of dumpy.

Other places: Michigan: artic winters, nothing to do but get drunk and fat. I grew up there and though I don't mind visiting in the summer, I generally stay away. Vermont is a nice place to go if you want cold weather- I've visited Burlington many times and liked it each time.

Virginia: I was forced to live in the People's Republic of Virginia for a year, and hated every minute of it. Too cold, too taxed, too anal about stupid rules, and too muddy. No thanx!

You know what is a nice place to live? Dallas, Texas. I was there for a year as well, and only just barely made the decision to move back to Florida. It is clean, the people are nice, and there are plenty of things to do and see. I had a good time there, even if it is over 100 degrees F every day in August...

In the end, you can find good and bad about every place. All the above are just my own opinions, YMMV. Check this out: I landed in Anchorage, Alaska one chilly morning in January, 2006, and after going through customs/immigration, found myself sitting in the hotel shuttle van. Looking out the window at the blowing snow. The lady driving the van asked me where I was from, and I told her Fort Lauderdale. "Oh....wow! How can you stand to live there with all the hurricanes?" This as the rear-drive Ford van fishtailed down the highway from the airport through about 6 inches of fresh snow....!

Hello?

[RoninLB]

NYC is one of the greatest cities in the world.

There are few native Manhattanites. The breed comes from all over the US and the world for opportunity and its sophistication.

You gotta have $ to experience it and live there at the upper levels.

There is a stark contrast between NYC and the forests. You either dig it or you don't.

[GothingNC]

Please do not pick Raleigh

It seems like everyone from the North East, Florida & Mexico is moving into Raleigh and the surrounding area.

Traffic and school overcrowding is a lot worse then when I first moved here in 96

[pookie]

I long to go back to NC. One of my favorite places and I have been all over the world. I think someone already said it but "Quality" of life is different down there. Charlotte and Raleigh are both turning into large cities, lots of growth and lots of room to grow. I think I saw where you are an audio installer. I'd suggest Charlotte, Raleigh, Durham, maybe Greensboro. They have the largest populations and would probably offer you the best job choices. I know there are multiple shops all over Charlotte, two sports teams in Charlotte too. Or you can live right across the border in SC, still good schools, cost of living is a little cheaper, but you are still close enough to use the benefits of the Queen City.