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red911sc 01-26-2008 10:56 AM

Hey gang,

I am down another 4 lb's this week. Everybody hanging in there?

trekkor 01-26-2008 11:24 AM

That low carb-high protien one does work well.
If you stop after losing the weight, yes, it come right back.
Faster it seems then it came off :mad:

I haven't weighed in a few days.
I think I'm holding without losing or gaining.

The hard part for me is the daily scheduled exercise, which I will admit, I have not started.


KT

Big Ed 01-26-2008 11:29 AM

I'm fighting the good fight, down another couple pounds in the last 4-5 days.

KT, the exercise is what does it for me...schedule the time, make it happen. It's worth it.

DARISC 01-26-2008 12:18 PM

Permanent weight loss is dependent on 3 inextricably intertwined factors: proper diet, excercise and sleep. Ignore any of the 3 and weight gain is likely to occur.

Food is fuel. Eat the right foods in the right quantities. Excercise daily (we develop more problems from sitting around than our Porsches do). Get eight hours of sleep (excercise, not right before sleep though, facilitates this).

Fuel up at the start of your day with a big breakfast (eat breakfast like a king).

Add fuel at lunch but less than at breakfast (eat lunch like a prince).

At day's end, eat an early light dinner (eat dinner like a pauper).

If you've taken on more fuel than you've burned throughout the day the body will store the excess in fat cells...period

No one who follows the above regimen will be overweight.

Diets contrived to lose weight are futile; post diet, then what? To keep off the weight you have to go to the above regimen to keep it off, so it's healthier (physically and psychologically) to skip the weight loss diet and get right into the regimen.

It'll become a lifestyle and you won't want to stray away from it because your body will have become attuned to what it needs and if those needs are abused you won't feel good. And you'll get fat.

The king, prince, pauper thing is from Adelle Davis, a nutritionist who got a lot of things right if you forgive her mistake about the body requiring huge ammounts of protein.

trekkor 01-26-2008 12:25 PM

Great post!!

That method of eating is what makes me feel best with the most energy.


KT

Big Ed 01-26-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 3729187)
Permanent weight loss is dependent on 3 inextricably intertwined factors: proper diet, excercise and sleep. Ignore any of the 3 and weight gain is likely to occur.

Please explain what sleep has to do with it. I thought weight loss is simply a matter of burning more calories than you consume. I'm not arguing, really...but interested in the answer.

DARISC 01-26-2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Ed (Post 3729209)
Please explain what sleep has to do with it. I thought weight loss is simply a matter of burning more calories than you consume. I'm not arguing, really...but interested in the answer.

I don't have the scientific info (caught the tail end of a TV news blurb) but sufficient sleep relating to obesity has recently been in the news. I've not looked into it yet but have always accepted that getting insufficient sleep is not healthy and am guessing that may have a negative effect on metabolism, which of course can affect weight gain/loss.

Not all that much is known about sleep actually. There are people who are born chronic insomniacs and need as little as 20 min. sleep every day of their lives. They don't actually have insomnia; they simply do not require more sleep than that and can't begin to imagine sleeping 1/3 of their lives away. These are perfectly healthy people. Scientists don't understand what's going on in these rare cases. They are confident, however, that one cannot "train" one's self to require less sleep and that long term sleep deficiency is cumulative in it's negative effects on the body as well as the mind.

They don't even know why we sleep. At the end of a documentary on sleep that I watched years ago, one of the number of scientists working in that field who were interviewed commented "At this time we cannot answer the question "Why do we sleep?" Nor can we answer the question "Why are we awake?"

Moneyguy1 01-26-2008 05:10 PM

The more hours you are awake, the more trips to the fridge?

Britwrench 01-26-2008 05:19 PM

This post is giving me the incentive to loose the mass I seem to have gained over the last few years. I never really noticed untill now how much I had put on........
Could do with letting go of 30 (or more) pounds this winter/spring.

12own911 01-27-2008 10:13 AM

Good going guys. I am down 1.4lbs... I am at 135lb right now and have 9 to go... wish me luck as I wish all of you luck as well.

trekkor 01-27-2008 10:18 AM

I'm at 229.

Nothing special.
3#'s in two weeks.

At this pace, I'm be at 191 by my goal date.
Exercise will help.


KT

911Rob 01-27-2008 10:43 PM

Almost a month? Jeesh.

Diet has been substantially improved, cardio and exercise increased.
Not a pound of weight loss.

I'm staying true to the cause though....... might be the fat to muscle exchange? I hope?

Cheers,

trekkor 01-27-2008 10:51 PM

Are you eating late into the evening?


KT

911Rob 01-27-2008 10:57 PM

Hey KT,
no where near what I used to, but yes, one maybe two nights a week I'll have a snack.
I've switched to a handful of walnuts or plain popcorn though.

My very typical daily diet is:
2 cups of morning coffee with a splash of cream
bowl of raisin bran with 1% milk
Tuna or Salmon on whole wheat with light mayo
Dinner (wife makes) eating smaller portion, added salad to the plate, high in proteins, low in fat.
Green tea
Lots of daily water intake too.

FYI,
Thanks for the review.
Cheers

911Rob 01-27-2008 11:00 PM

PS:
I'm 6'4", 245Lbs and 47 y.o.

Played mens rugby to age 33, coached sports till 40
I'm athletically active with summer/ winter sports still
very little gym work/ excercise though.

kstar 01-27-2008 11:02 PM

I haven't read every post here yet, but you folks might try some raw psyllium husks, mix with water and drink for a few days initially. It's amazing how much weight one may be carrying around in the colon.

Every once in a while (monthly or bi-monthly), I mix a tablespoon or two with a full glass of water - and do drink plenty of water after! The next day can be "interesting".

edit: I take the raw psyllium husk drink early morning, before breakfast.

edit2: Drink plenty of water!!!

Best,

Kurt

trekkor 01-27-2008 11:18 PM

Quote:

The next day can be "interesting".
My wife had me on "this cleanse" last night.
Started with several glasses of apple juice.
Then 2 tablespoons of olive oil followed by two tablespoons of lemon juice.

Whoa!!

Gives a whole new definition to "salad shooter" :o


KT

trekkor 01-27-2008 11:20 PM

I lost a pound today just "sitting around". :o


KT

kstar 01-27-2008 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3732262)
My wife had me on "this cleanse" last night.
Started with several glasses of apple juice.
Then 2 tablespoons of olive oil followed by two tablespoons of lemon juice.

Whoa!!

Gives a whole new definition to "salad shooter" :o


KT

Trek: I think the psyllium may have advantages to the above method. Each husk, when put in water, expands to several times its dry size. This creates a mass of fiber that runs through one's system apparently cleaning all of the nooks and crannies in the lower intestinal tract.

This is bad:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201505115.jpg

trekkor 01-27-2008 11:33 PM

Where do you get the psyillium and why does that large intestine show up so well in the x-ray?


KT


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