Will Algore Become a Pariah

[Mule]

It is now obvious to all but a mentally challenged few that global warming as hyped by Algore is a farce. This was the coldest winter in years. The Southern hemisphere has the most ice on record. Ice is accumulating in the Northern hemisphere.

People are going hungry thanks to "alternative" fuel programs sponsored by Al.

Fuel costs break new records almost daily thanks to a lack of exploration & new production.

A lack of production capacity has resulted from refusal to allow new refineries.

Halting nuclear power contributes to the picture as does refusal to look at coal liquification.

The global economy is going down the toilet.

Al is raking in cash from his "carbon credit" scam.

How long can it be before even the blind, cripple & crazy left look around & say "WTF." I know one of the differences between smart & stupid is that smart has limits, but even the dumbest leftie is probably going to start to see the light before long.

When it becomes obvious that Algore has not only screwed up things in America, but much of the rest of the world as well, will the calls for his head begin? Maybe manbearpig can save him!

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by Mule

This was the coldest winter in years. The Southern hemisphere has the most ice on record. Ice is accumulating in the Northern hemisphere.

While I'm absolutely no fan of Mr. Manbearpig, I'd like to ask you to post your sources for the three claims you've made. Thanks.

[Tobra]

no, he shall not, and Manbearpig!(this is properly spelled with the exclamation point) is his nemesis, not his ally.

Technically, Global warming is spelled with the little frowny face at the end.

[Red Baron]

http://tinyurl.com/43z6r6

[Mule]

There it is!

[Mule]

Originally Posted by Tobra

no, he shall not, and Manbearpig!(this is properly spelled with the exclamation point) is his nemesis, not his ally.

Technically, Global warming is spelled with the little frowny face at the end.

Al should be buying hookers & cocaine for manbearpig! He's a lot richer thanks to MBP!

[DaveE]

If the only source is going to be a FOX Australian subsidiary, I'll remain sceptical for now, thanks.

[Jim Richards]

From the mighty Red Baron's link:

All four agencies that track Earth's temperature (the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Britain, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, the Christy group at the University of Alabama, and Remote Sensing Systems Inc in California) report that it cooled by about 0.7C in 2007. This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record and it puts us back where we were in 1930. If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over.

From NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York:

Climatologists at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City have found that 2007 tied with 1998 for Earth's second warmest year in a century.

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20080116/

Right now, I'm not saying it's the dreaded Global Warming ; however, I'm not sure the emminent scientist Dr. Albert E. Mule has presented real facts in this thread. So, I'm going back to my spot in the cheap seats now that I refilled my tub of popcorn.

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by DaveE

If the only source is going to be a FOX Australian subsidiary, I'll remain sceptical for now, thanks.

Phil Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who lives in San Francisco. He was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut

And you're a guy with an internet connection, so I'll go with Phil.

[DaveE]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

Phil Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who lives in San Francisco. He was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut

And you're a guy with an internet connection, so I'll go with Phil.

Fine but it still reads more like an editorial to me than breaking news..................

[Mule]

http://www.manbearpig.net/

[DaveE]

WEl, I haven't gone to THIS site but my guess is it isn't impartial..................

Or 'fair and balanced' in your parlance.

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by DaveE

Fine but it still reads more like an editorial to me than breaking news..................

It's not breaking news.

How about these 4 talking points to get back on topic?

1) People are going hungry thanks to "alternative" fuel programs sponsored by Al.

2) Fuel costs break new records almost daily thanks to a lack of exploration & new production.

3) A lack of production capacity has resulted from refusal to allow new refineries.

4) Halting nuclear power contributes to the picture as does refusal to look at coal liquification.

[nostatic]

To me, it isn't an issue of "global warming" or "global cooling" but rather the reality that human industrialized activity is having a negative impact on the environment in a variety of ways. That's where the focus should be, not in trying to predict how we're changing the weather...

[Jim Richards]

From another "source" in Red Baron's linked article, this time the Hadley Centre:

Climate change and global variability
5 March 2008

A significant drop in global average temperature in January 2008 has led to speculation that the Earth is experiencing a period of sustained cooling.

A brief look at the graph depicting January global average temperatures reveals large variability in our climate year-on-year, but with an underlying rise over the longer term almost certainly caused by man-made emissions of greenhouse gases.

There are a number of natural factors contributing to so-called interannual variability, the single most important being the El Niņo Southern Oscillation or ENSO. The global climate is currently being influenced by the cold phase of this oscillation, known as La Niņa (see Met Office: Expert speaks on La Niņa).

The current La Niņa began to develop in early 2007, having a significant cooling effect on the global average temperature. Despite this, 2007 was one of the ten warmest years since global records began in 1850 with a temperature some 0.4 °C above average.

The La Niņa has strengthened further during early 2008 and is now the strongest since 1988/89, significantly contributing to a lower January temperature in 2008 compared to recent years. In addition, global average temperature has been influenced by very cold land temperatures in parts of the northern hemisphere and extensive snow cover.

However, once La Niņa declines, it is very likely that renewed warming will occur as was the case when the Earth emerged from the strong La Niņa events of 1989 and 1999.

January 2008 may seem particularly cold compared to January 2007 — the warmest January on record and largely due to the warming phenomenon El Niņo — but this merely demonstrates the year-to-year natural variations in our climate.

In future, while the trend in global temperatures is predicted to remain upwards, we will continue to see inherent variability of this kind.

Some figures are presented here: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/hadleycentre/news/cc_global_variability_figures.html#g_a_r_temp

[Jim Richards]

I'd say "The Austrailian" article is crap journalism like Al Gore is a crap scientist.

Let's do better next time with reliable sources not spelled FOX.

[MichiganMat]

Originally Posted by Red Baron

It's not breaking news.

How about these 4 talking points to get back on topic?

1) People are going hungry thanks to "alternative" fuel programs sponsored by Al.

2) Fuel costs break new records almost daily thanks to a lack of exploration & new production.

3) A lack of production capacity has resulted from refusal to allow new refineries.

4) Halting nuclear power contributes to the picture as does refusal to look at coal liquification.

5.) We must start drilling ANWR!

[Red Baron]

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html

Let's just link it to infinity.

[Jim Richards]

Let's not. The internet causes Global Warming .

[Mule]

Another manbearpig non-believer http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/07/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-greatest-scam-history
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/global_warming_busters/2007/12/21/58912.html
http://www.abd.org.uk/green_myths.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooli ng/article10866.htm
http://www.junkscience.com/
http://epw.senate.gov/repwhitepapers/6345050%20Hot%20&%20Cold%20Media.pdf

There's plenty more but I think you get the picture.