Wayne's Crazy Deck-Inside-Pool Project...

[Danny_Ocean]

It's irrelevant! He's using redwood as a deck surface! No-one will ever be in contact with the treated wood!

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Not directly, however rain water can potentially wash the leeched out chemicals into the bottom of the pool, where they'll be pumped to who-knows-where. Redwood is a good finish material - termite resistant and pretty durable. There's also a bazillion different synthetic finishes that can lay on top if one is concerned about nail heads or screw heads eventually starting to back out/stick up, etc.

Overall I really like Wayne's concept. It's a neat idea and not something one sees every day, but as with such things there are issues that have to be addressed also that aren't the "everyday" variety.

[Danny_Ocean]

Originally Posted by procon

Might be relevant to other's on the forum, but what do I know.

BTW: Be sure the builder is using at a minimum hot dipped galvanized fasteners, although stainless steel is preferred.

The discussion isn't about other projects. We're specifically discussing Wayne's project at hand. Never did see him ask for advice on treated lumber.

The "builder"? Have you even read the post? squared

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by KC911

I'm the prey Matt . Yep, I've been successful (thus far) keeping my distance from all kinds of nasty predators, Neo-cons and Liberals, but I'm afraid I've lost a step and I'm VERY afraid!

DOH! I mean, er, um, predators.

I like the pudding idea. But can you imagine drowning in 10' of pudding?

[onewhippedpuppy]

I'm sure Wayne is aware of ACQ's ability to eat common fasteners, he seems to have done his homework. The average homeowner, however........ I predict the demise of ACQ is the day that elevated decks begin falling off of homes because the galvanized lags were eaten by the treatment chemicals. Oh well, it's more prone to twisting than CCA anyway. 60% of treated lumber at the average lumberyard is so twisted it can't be used.

[Danny_Ocean]

Originally Posted by procon

As I originally posted, no I did not read the entire thread & not going to.
I know how to build a deck.
However, since the "project at hand" is in regard to his children's safety I felt it was relevant to point out certain info regarding treated lumber.

Sorry my post rubbed you the wrong way, not sure why??

Feel free to resume your brown nosing.

Rubbed me the wrong way? ---->

"Brown-nosing"?!? When you give (frequently inadequate) advice, it's considered "assisting". When I give concise & accurate advice, it's "brown-nosing"? Whatever...

Go herd some Goats or whatever you mountain-people do.

[Tim Hancock]

For god's sake, it is simply a wood deck covering a pool. If it feels flimsy when finished, add a few braces..... My ONLY concerns, if this were my project, would be for avoiding damage to that beautiful pool.

[Danny_Ocean]

Originally Posted by procon

LOL
This mountain person has a commercial to prop in a few hours.

Sheesh...944 owners. I just never got along with 'em.

[Danny_Ocean]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

For god's sake, it is simply a wood deck covering a pool. If it feels flimsy when finished, add a few braces..... My ONLY concerns, if this were my project, would be for avoiding damage to that beautiful pool.

However...it's an 8' drop. Not like he's building a deck on the ground. One failure and the collapse will be spectacular.


D. Ocean
Chief Brown-Noser

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean

However...it's an 8' drop. Not like he's building a deck on the ground. One failure and the collapse will be spectacular.


D. Ocean
Chief Brown-Noser

I personally would not be scared in the least to walk on that finished structure. It could be built 1/2 as strong and I still would not worry about a sudden major failure/8' drop to my death. I guess we all have different fear and safety levels based on how, when and where we grew up.

[Danny_Ocean]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

I personally would not be scared in the least to walk on that finished structure. It could be built 1/2 as strong and I still would not worry about a sudden major failure/8' drop to my death. I guess we all have different fear and safety levels based on how, when and where we grew up.

I'm referring to an overload situation (backyard party, etc.). The 8' drop might not kill you, but the ton and a half of falling lumber might.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

For god's sake, it is simply a wood deck covering a pool. If it feels flimsy when finished, add a few braces..... My ONLY concerns, if this were my project, would be for avoiding damage to that beautiful pool.

Tim, you need to read more closely. Wayne wants to park his F150 on it.

[VINMAN]

Interesting project Wayne, good luck with it.

The biggest problem I have with it are the angle of the concrete piers the 4x4 posts are sitting on. They are designed for a plumb, verticle compression load. That angle looks hairy to me.
I know here in NJ there aint a shot in hell of that passing an inspection.

[vash]

you put 30 folks doing the macarena on that as a dance floor, and you better be damn certian it will hold.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally Posted by VINMAN

Interesting project Wayne, good luck with it.

The biggest problem I have with it are the angle of the concrete piers the 4x4 posts are sitting on. They are designed for a plumb, verticle compression load. That angle looks hairy to me.
I know here in NJ there aint a shot in hell of that passing an inspection.

I thought in NJ that entirely depended on how many $100 bills were involved. . .

[VINMAN]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I thought in NJ that entirely depended on how many $100 bills were involved. . .

There is no bribery in this fine usptanding, moral state!! We have the best inspectors money can buy

[rsNINESOOPER]

Originally Posted by vash

you put 30 folks doing the macarena on that as a dance floor, and you better be damn certian it will hold.

If I were dancing the Macarena in unison with 29 other people on a deck built over a pool and it collapsed into a twisted pile of people and wood I would consider it Divine intervention. I would prefer that a close friend shoot me execution style and then keep what he saw a secret from my other friends.

friends don't let friends dance the Macarena.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by rsNINESOOPER

If I were dancing the Macarena in unison with 29 other people on a deck built over a pool and it collapsed into a twisted pile of people and wood I would consider it Divine intervention. I would prefer that a close friend shoot me execution style and then keep what he saw a secret from my other friends.

friends don't let friends dance the Macarena.

You said it better than I ever could, but that was exactly my sentiments when I read that post yesterday. Wayne, could you put some "sensors" in place that would guarantee a collapse under these circumstances ?

[Buckterrier]

Kids ages 1, 2, and 3? Is there a rut season on the left coast?
I'm with the group of teaching kids to swim. My parents raised 3 boys with pools, lakes, rivers all around. A 'right of passage' was to swim across the Allegheny River which I did at 12 years old. My father in a row boat next to me. Talk about a confidence builder for a child.
Good luck with the project. Does look pretty cool.

[911teo]

We have kids of 3 and 5. Put them in the water from day 1.

The 3 year old started swimming without a floating device this Summer. And she can probably last 1 minute.

A pool fo that size and without shallow areas would have been a danger for the kids for the next 4 or more years.

I would have not bought the house in the 1st place.... everything else is perfect apart from that huge hole in the back yard

Now I think this solution is the best because you retain the pool for the future.

Last comment about the craftmanship.... incredible.