With respect, Wayne, you keep repeating this tired line.

There is no known causal connection between (a) the fact that Bush is in office and (b) the fact that no further attack has occurred on American soil since 9/11. None.

Why give George the credit?

Is it just an article of faith?

"Do no harm" is not that weird.

When that's a stated goal you're right, but that was not the case. There wasn't a policy of non-intervention or hands-off, Clinton got shut down and in the end it helped him/us.

You sell real estate, right?

There is an absolute connection: your continued denial is what has become a tired, one trick pony.

Had there been an attack, no doubt you would have been the first to the gallows with the rope.

Show us the facts. Until then its just speculation. What is a fact is the Bush pushed us into Iraq under false allegations. Also a fact that our civil liberties have been compromised by his administration. So until some really fancy shiney cool facts about all the good things Bush has done comes out, he sucks and his legacy will suck. I reserve the right to be proven wrong, upon which I will gladly dine on humble pie. I did vote for him the first time, fact = poor choice by me.

Show me your facts...really. There is the absolute than an attack has not happened, and then there is your ilk that says it is an accident...that is your assertion, not mine. So, until you muster your shiney [sic] facts, I'll stand by.

I have been briefed daily since the start of OIF, have supplied hardware and material, men and machines in the fight, have traveled there many times. You do your homework, start with the number of terrorists attacks against American interests in the last 16 years, run the time lines forward.

The massive intel failures were not Bushes, rather the state of play when he took over...it was broken, badly broken.

I love that. Make a statemenet and say prove me wrong and if you don't, I'm obviously right.
Try this;
I screwed your woman!

Prove me wrong and I'll dine on humble pie.

So we'll agree to dissagree :) Patriot act is a fact. No weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq. So far no large scale terrorist attack on American soil.

did you know that the phrase humble pie comes from deer guts pie, or umble pie.

Start eating the pie. I have definitive proof you didn't screw my woman. She's no longer with us. Thanks!

Thanks for making my point for me.

So you're right and I'm wrong? :rolleyes:

My point is that you can't refute what I said. Not even she can apparently.

:confused::confused:

Over my head.

lock time.

I'm uncomfortable with using your woman as an example(sorry for your loss btw) but since you seem to be OK with it I'll explain.

You're stating that she's no longer with us only proves he's not sleeping with her now, it does not prove he never slept with her. That was the point.

Again, sorry for your loss.

I think you guys need to get to the bottom of this. One of you may be right and of course at least one of you is wrong, and it's imperative that you find out who is who. That is the only way we can know who the "winner" is.

I'm not comfortable either, he made the statement not me.

As to refuting statements and facts... If you want to believe you will, if you don't you won't. The rest of the time you're just blowing wind trying to get others to see your point of view.

Oh for sure..... the internet after all is SERIOUS BUSINESS!