But...But...the world wants the One.

[scottmandue]

Well, it is not like America goes around telling other countries what to do so why should we listen to them.

[Zef]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Not necessarily, but they certainly don't have our best interests at heart.

Ever hear the saying, "Never take financial advice from anyone who isn't better off than you are."? That's how I feel about other countries telling us what's best for us.

Sometimes it's good to listen...particularly when the economy is KO on the floor...!

[RWebb]

The "World" cited contains many of our allies.

They would like us to assume a position of leadership again.

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by RWebb

The "World" cited contains many of our allies.

They would like us to assume a position of leadership again.

Because if we don't do, who will, France?

[YTNUKLR]

"A total of 23,531 people in Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, the UAE, Britain and the United States were interviewed face-to-face or by telephone in July and August 2008 for the poll."

These are major countries, with a major impact and interest in how the future goes.

China population 1.3 B
India 1.1 B
USA 300 M
Indonesia 246 M
Brazil 188 M
Germany 83 M
Egypt 79 M
Philippines 90 M
Australia 20.5 M
UK 61 M
France 61 M
Mexico 107 M
Nigeria 132 M
Canada 33 M
Singapore 5 M
Turkey 70 M
Italy 58 M
Kenya 32 M
Lebanon 4 M
Panama 3.2 M
Poland 39 M
Russia 142 M
UAE 3 M

These countries represent over 4.1 B people, about 2/3 of the world's population (6.6 B).

The countries on this list that receive U.S. economic aid are ...

Egypt, $1.87B
Turkey, $150M
Indonesia $130M
Kenya $130M

Exactly four countries out of the above 22 (not including the U.S.) receive foreign aid, "with their hands out."

This is PEANUTS to the $30B+ we have sent to Iraq every year, not even including the $10B per month we spend waging our war in that country. Also Israel has been by far one of our longest-term receivers of aid: the U.S. sends about $2.5-3B over there every year. George Bush just sent $1B to the country of Georgia. Shame he didn't even care that much about Americans who lived in New Orleans [stupid place to build a city-I agree]...but who were Americans nonetheless...

This is not uncommon to see in other countries:




The world really doesn't want a bungling old Republican like or GWB or McSame. Do you guys notice that the outstanding National Public Debt is currently over $32,000 per American? [$9.7T/300M people] No sign of that letting up or even slowing down a wink. Government spending is out of control. But, if government spending is out of control, do you really want to be cutting tax revenues??? Yes, Obama has a huge spending plan to modernize old infrastructure and improve our country's efficiency. He has a corresponding plan to pay for it, with everyone that makes above $250,000 taking a larger share of it. Anyone that makes under $250,000 per year is going to see a tax cut.

Question for you guys against Obama, yes or no, Do you make more than $250k per year? If you don't make that much, I'd say you're stupid not to vote for Obama.

http://www.slate.com/id/2198806/

John McCain: “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” he says. “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” This is who I want overseeing the largest economy in the world. Yea. That's right....

[MichiganMat]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

Because if we don't do, who will, France?

China.
India.
UAE.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by jmshepard

For what it's worth, the world wants us to put Mr. Obama in office, because it's the right thing to do.

We don't trade with any of these countries do we?

So yes, world relations and trade are going to be more important as the US dollar continues to fall due too the massive spending and mess Bush/Cheney have made.

[Zef]

Originally Posted by RWebb

The "World" cited contains many of our allies.

They would like us to assume a position of leadership again.

Let's face it...USA can't be everywhere everytime....It take a lot of ressources to do that...It's my 2 cents...but I think you have to be more selective in your interventions.

[Zef]

Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, the UAE, Britain and the United States were interviewed face-to-face or by telephone in July and August 2008 for the poll."
These are major countries, with a major impact and interest in how the future goes.


No country in this list want the bad for USA...Canadian economy is intimely and directly linked to the US one (like many others). 80 % of our export goes in US. Like I said...it's sometime good to listen what the others have to say.

[Seric]

Who was the limey Brit turd on the MTV Movie Awards...

Put that tard in a missle and shoot his butt back to pikey land.

[RWebb]

I agree that the US must "be more selective in [its] interventions" and on how it intervenes.

However, there is an old saying: "Do not wake the sleeping Dragon." Since we are almost on exact anniversary of the Spt. 11th attacks, it is well to bear that in mind.

Yes, France will exercise some degree of leadership. Usually diplomatic.
However, Europe as a hole, has a very poor track record - even at keeping peace on their own continent. Not just WWI and II, but the Bosnian conflict. Right there on European soil - AFTER WWII, AFTER the HOLOCAUST - the Europeans sat there and did nothing in the face of genocide. It took he US to make anything happen.

China and India seem content to concentrate internally. China has an extreme view of sovereignty also (human right s cannot trump what a country does internally).

No one mentioned Russia - I'm sure the World will be thrilled if Putin leads the World...

No. It's us - the US. We are forced into a position of leadership, even if we don't want it. The real question is how to exercise that leadership. Even Bush seems to have wised up recently.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Zef

Sometimes it's good to listen...particularly when the economy is KO on the floor...!

If you think 3.3% GDP growth is "KO on the floor", or that Obama's promised tax hikes and new spending programs would improve that, then that's all the more reason why NO ONE should listen to you.

[YTNUKLR]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

If you think 3.3% GDP growth is "KO on the floor", or that Obama's promised tax hikes and new spending programs would improve that, then that's all the more reason why NO ONE should listen to you.

Hey Rick, can you please find a citation or article for the promised Obama tax hikes? I'd really like to read about that.

[I am not being a jerk-off, I am honestly asking]

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by YTNUKLR

Hey Rick, can you please find a citation or article for the promised Obama tax hikes? I'd really like to read about that.

[I am not being a jerk-off, I am honestly asking]

Read one of the multitude of threads on Obama. In many of them, we cite the WSJ articles where is is raising taxes.

[Sunroof]

After eight years of George W. Bush screwing things up, anyone looks good right now!!

[MichiganMat]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Read one of the multitude of threads on Obama. In many of them, we cite the WSJ articles where is is raising taxes.

And its all bull****.

How many times do I need to post this:



Thats from the Washington Post BTW

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by YTNUKLR

Hey Rick, can you please find a citation or article for the promised Obama tax hikes? I'd really like to read about that.

[I am not being a jerk-off, I am honestly asking]

There are countless articles on this and most recently Obama's own interview on Bill O'Reilly. If you haven't heard it straight from the horse's mouth by now, you haven't been paying attention. Off the top of my head, I know Obama has promised a capital gains hike, hike in top marginal income tax bracket and hike in Soc. Sec. tax on income above $250k. Of course, he tries to sell this by saying it won't affect 95% of Americans. Nevermind that 95% of Americans (or very close to it) already pay a minority of federal income taxes, which means those affected are already paying way more than their "fair share". He's also promised a windfall profits tax on oil companies. I can't think of a quicker way to make the price of gas go up.

I'm sure there are plenty more, but these are the ones he's talked about the most. And with the Dem majorities he'll have in the House and Senate, the only problem he'll face is deciding how quickly he wants these taxes passed and implemented.

[artplumber]

Originally Posted by MichiganMat

And its all bull****.

How many times do I need to post this:



Thats from the Washington Post BTW

Looks like Obama's raising taxes to me. People who make <40K/yr are not even paying what they consume. Obama himself has stated his goal is income redistribution. When I work my butt off, I don't think it's cool to give my income to some methhead or even a somebody else who is working say a maintenance job, do you? Did they work for grades to get to a decent college, and then go through 10+yrs of post college training?

[BeyGon]

I saw him with O'Riely talking about taxes and income redistribution, he said Teddy Roosevelt did it,
OK, if he did, how long ago, the world has changed since then Baarraak.

[Rick Lee]

The whole Dem premise is to buy votes by making the masses think the tax hikes won't affect them because they only want to tax rich folks. Well, I've never been hired by a poor person before and I've been laid off a few times. And I fully expect my wife and me to be in the top bracket by within the next four years. Why in the world should I be pay more taxes to pay for more social programs for those who can't take care of themselves?