IQ - do you agree with this listing...

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by Hawktel

IQ tests are meaningless.

Strangely enough, the people I know that say that are the ones that did miserably on those tests

[Dave L]

In Grade 1 or 2 I was tested. I didnt pay attention in school and just did my own thing most of the time and they couldnt figure out what was wrong with me. I had hearing tests, eye tests, behaviour tests then finally an IQ test. I tested "outside the norm" but my parents didnt want to enrole me in a gifted program because they didnt want me to be "one of those kids". One of the questions I was asked I actually still remember. The tester asked me what is the maximum number of tires on a bicycle. I said four, "Bi" is for 2 but you can also add training wheels so my answer was four. I floated through school and I cant remember ever doing homework, I never got good marks because I never really cared. In college I took the shortest business program I could and took Statistics and Quantitative Anaylsis as electives. Stats was boring but Quants made me think and I had fun. I took another test in College on a lark and also tested outside the norm.

I think its just a number, it really doesnt have any impact in my daily life and I would never think of myself as different because of a silly test. There are a lot of very smart people in this world I dont think I would ever count myself as one of them. I am in sales and always have been, its contantly changing and always has interesting chalenges.

[cl8ton]

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean

Afterward...

No...it was after(words)

[Hawktel]

Originally Posted by Pazuzu

Strangely enough, the people I know that say that are the ones that did miserably on those tests

132.

I stand by my statement. Meaningless, and I would venture to say harmful in some cases.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by Hawktel

132.

I stand by my statement. Meaningless, and I would venture to say harmful in some cases.

167.

Only harmful if you let it be harmful.

[BeyGon]

I am going to have to stop posting here, I barley qualified for OCS in the Marines.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

I am going to have to stop posting here, I barley qualified for OCS in the Marines.

Oh no, you gotta flop your penis out on the table like the rest of us are

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by slakjaw

Anyone here ever actually had an IQ test? I dont think I have.

They were almost always timed. Recall the teacher saying "Times up"? Do you remember taking tests where the house was missing a chimney? Perhaps filling in bubbles on multiple choice card? Sometimes the tests were conducted in an auditorium instead of the classroom.

I remember a math aptitude test in 8th grade in the cafeteria. We were told to answer as many questions as possible and not to spend time on tough questions as only the number of correct answers counted.

The grading system was such that 8.5 meant 8th grade 5th month which would have been considered norm. I tested 14.2 (college sophomore) which put me number 2 in the school and number 2 in the district. Number one was a good friend of mine, Tom Fukawa. He went on to become a nuclear physicist or something. I'm currently considering a paper route.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by dd74

I believe the same. Einstein, IIRC, is a good example of where IQ - or ability to learn - may not be applicable to true intelligence. I believe Einstein wasn't a very good student.

Many very intelligent folks are poor students, they get bored, I know I did.

When I took that test they give you for the military, like 60 or 90 minutes they gave you. 15 minutes later I walk out, and the guy thinks I have a question or something and I am done. He thinks I am kidding until he figures out I have a perfect score

Originally Posted by HardDrive

+1

I test well on IQ tests.

But I feel like it has hurt, not helped my career. Being intelligent is great, but if you do not have emotional intelligence to deal with other people, it is of limited use.

I live in affluent area, and I can tell you with authority that determination, ambition and guts make a lot more people rich than brains do.

No offense meant, but using some of your posts on your prayer and doctors thread as a yardstick, you have zero emotional intelligence

Originally Posted by livi

Great. I have 'very superior intelligence'. Thats good to know, seeing as I pass most of the days feeling stupid.

the more you know, the more you realize you have to learn

Originally Posted by Hawktel

IQ tests are meaningless.


Sides, we are all dumber than Cecil Adams. He's been fighting ignorance since 1973. What have you done?

He has not accomplished much, it may be a losing battle

Originally Posted by Hawktel

132.

I stand by my statement. Meaningless, and I would venture to say harmful in some cases.

I concur,

169

I know one person who did better on the SAT than I did, my friend John Reynen got a 1600

[onewhippedpuppy]

Despite a high tested IQ, I've been kicked out of college and then dropped out of college. I finally did finish an engineering degree, but don't go reading too much into IQ. I spent a lot of time bored in school, ultimately my work ethic got me through, not intelligence.

[p911dad]

I have had enough time to have been around really superior intellects and also some real dullards, they are both rare. I generally agree with the scale, it has a scientific basis. Also, an important point is it is distributed on a "Bell" curve, with the vast majority of people scattered around the middle and the genius/dullard population dropping off quickly toward the respective ends of the scale.

[Wickd89]

Originally Posted by dd74

I believe the same. Einstein, IIRC, is a good example of where IQ - or ability to learn - may not be applicable to true intelligence. I believe Einstein wasn't a very good student.

Urban confusion. Einstein was actually a great student. Straight A's.
His grades in high school in Switzerland were all 6's and that were top marks.
When he went to Germany, their system is inverted and they read his scores as being terrible; since for them a 1 is a top mark.

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I think most electrical engineers (maybe all engineers) have IQ scores above 120. I know my score, and therefore think most of the people I use to work with at Hughes Aircraft were between 140-160.
I currently manage an engineering department and most of my engineers can learn anything and program anything within a few hours/days; nothing is impossible for them..
I am sure our sponsor Wayne is topping the scale...

Remember IQ isn't everything. The Big Bang Show is a great example of that, and seems so true....

[126coupe]

My daughter is prepping for the LSAT (Law school admittance test) I bought a prep book.
I realize the puzzle games (analytical reasoning) are 25% of the test, I also know that these puzzle games are on IQ tests. They are very difficult. Both my daughter and I struggle w these type questions, the logical reasoning and reading comprehension come a little easier. I think the puzzle solving brain types are just wired differently.

[turbo6bar]

I despise how my brain moves so much faster and better than my mouth. I'll try to compress a few days worth of thought into a 30 seconds of monologue. When I finish speaking, the response is that blank What The Hell stare.

It's a good thing I get paid for applying ideas as opposed to communicating ideas.

You guys with 160 IQs... I'd like to have a beer with you sometime.
Jurgen

[fintstone]

I am not sure the value of the test. I personally do not post stats or info on myself in an attempt to remain anonymous, but have yet to meet anyone with a higher score than I have, yet I am not rich, famous, or at all like anyone who is supposed to be particularly bright on TV or in the movies (Good Will Hunting). I am not paticularly successful; sure didn't score 1600 the one time I took the SAT...and am called stupid or dense on this BBS almost daily by those with lower scores (shouldn't have posted those scores guys). A lot of pretty good scores here though...but isn't everyone taller, richer, better-looking and smarter on the internet? Apparently the ability to learn does not necessarily mean one has put their ability to good use...or the test is flawed.

[tabs]

The guy with the most IQ under the hood on this Board is NOSTATIC. No one else has demonstrated the same ability to grasp complex abstractions as he does.

IQ is broken down into 7 different areas. I wish I could tell you what they were. However my IQ is between 128 and 144. With the average being right around 135.

Now some of U may have more straight line IQ, but none of you can take me down in the corners. Those corners you might say are Emotional IQ. It takes time and applying those 135 horses to get out their beyond the doors of perception. I just call it awareness. How aware are you of your surroundings. Can anyone of you tell me when someone is not telling the truth. Can you spot the sentence or two that is most revealing about a person when he is speaking. How bout the use of a single word in a paragraph?

There is also something called street smarts...that is the ability to look around a corner and see what is actually going on. I knew a guy that could come up to you and talk to you for 30 minutes just to ask and get the answer to one question from you. If that didn't work he would send someone else out that was a friend of yours to ask the same question. Need I say that he was a major embezzler in a corporation, that never got caught because he wasn't in it for the money, but the challenge of being able to do it. His information to company security sent someone to jail. His father was an Episcopal Priest up in LA Canada, CA. and he very nearly had an engineering degree. All his brothers and sisters were professional people. BTW I was able to spot the question before I spilled my guts.


IQ is basically how quickly one can grasp a complex idea, an abstract idea. I equate it to the speed of light. The quicker the speed the smarter you are.

With less than 1% of the population being genius level, this Board sure has a lot of them.

Wayne has got IQ under the hood, but he is a very meat and potatoes thinker. Lubby has IQ but again is meat and potatoes, Moses is meat and potatoes. If ya can't count it it doesn't exist. Well let me clue ya, there is more to the universe than counting. These boyz are conventional thinkers, straight line. ________________


TWO other items:

1. Imagination and instinct. Imagination is that idea that pops up in your head outa nowhere. Instinct is based on genetics (experience compounded over time, over generations). It is your gut feelings.

During my life I have been able to intuit things. I always was questioning whether those feelings and ideas were real? It wasn't until I was with my Granny when she died that I decided to never doubt them again. I trust my imagination and intuition to be very accurate. Some of you believe me from 1st hand experience.

2. Duality. This comes right out of madness, being on the edge of things. This is the ability to see both sides of the equation at the same time. Being able to argue both sides in a debate at the same time. Most people only see one side. In actuality there are 3 sides. First is the affirmative, second is the negative and third is the neutral. I have gotten to the neutral position. When I go to either affirmative or negative it is by choich.

This is something that NOSTATIC understands completely. This is the area from whence "A man of wealth and taste" comes from." Many of you have been caught, today's example was MULE on the Beatles thread.

Understanding Duality is the reason why I am able to anticipate the reactions of people.

Now that I have told you all my secrets you will be able to go out and apply them. Oh but there is one little problem remember I said it takes time and effort to work through all the permutations. NOSTATIC understands this concept. BTW where the fk is he?

[red-beard]

Based on SAT score: 145

Yep, I'm MENSA eligible, and I can do the hand sign...I'm just too lazy to join

[tabs]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Based on SAT score: 145

Yep, I'm MENSA eligible, and I can do the hand sign...I'm just too lazy to join

Are ya sure it wasn't a test designed by progressive educators....

[tabs]

Here is a thought. The more one becomes aware or works on their Emotional IQ the quicker one is able to access the files. Cause ya don't have all the clutter and junk of your own personality to move out of the way to get to those files.