Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Used Up User
 
imcarthur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,311
Garage
Why rednecks may rule the world

BBC article by By Joe Bageant - Author of Deerhunting With Jesus

BBC Link

"During this US election cycle we are hearing a lot from the pundits and candidates about "heartland voters," and "white working class voters."

What they are talking about are rednecks. But in their political correctness, media types cannot bring themselves to utter the word "redneck." So I'll say it for them: redneck-redneck-redneck-redneck . . ."

His list of the essentials of redneck culture:
  • Belief that no law is above God's law, not even the US Constitution.
  • Hyper patriotism. A fighting defence of native land, home and heart, even when it is not actually threatened: ie, Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Somalia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Haiti and dozens more with righteous operations titles such as Enduring Freedom, Restore Hope, and Just Cause.
  • A love of guns and tremendous respect for the warrior ideal. Along with this comes a strong sense of fealty and loyalty. Fealty to wartime leaders, whether it be FDR or George Bush.
  • Self effacement, humility. We are usually the butt of our own jokes, in an effort not to appear aloof among one another.
  • Belief that most things outside our own community and nation are inferior and threatening, that the world is jealous of the American lifestyle.
  • Personal pride in equality. No man, however rich or powerful, is better than me.
  • Perseverance and belief in hard work. If a man or a family is poor, it is because they did not work hard enough. God rewards those who work hard enough. So does the American system.
  • The only free country in the world is the United States, and the only reason we ever go to war is to protect that freedom.

Ian

__________________
'87 Carrera Cab

----- “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” A. Einstein -----
Old 09-09-2008, 01:00 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Seldom Seen Member
 
Burnin' oil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: California
Posts: 3,584
Crap, I'm a redneck.
__________________
Why do things that happen to white trash always happen to me?

Got nachos?
Old 09-09-2008, 01:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered Usurper
 
DARISC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 13,824
What a load of crap!

Y'all made all that stuff up from readin' these patryots on these here po litikal threads, didn' ya?

Low-life furrin farkin' Canuck!
__________________
'82 SC RoW coupe
Old 09-09-2008, 01:07 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Unregistered
 
sammyg2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: a wretched hive of scum and villainy
Posts: 55,652
Quote:
Originally Posted by imcarthur View Post

(This part was left out)
Ultimately, the Scots Irish have had more of an effect on the American ethos than any other immigrant group. Here are a few you will recognize:
  • Belief that no law is above God's law, not even the US Constitution.
  • Hyper patriotism. A fighting defence of native land, home and heart, even when it is not actually threatened: ie, Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Somalia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Vietnam, Haiti and dozens more with righteous operations titles such as Enduring Freedom, Restore Hope, and Just Cause.
  • A love of guns and tremendous respect for the warrior ideal. Along with this comes a strong sense of fealty and loyalty. Fealty to wartime leaders, whether it be FDR or George Bush.
  • Self effacement, humility. We are usually the butt of our own jokes, in an effort not to appear aloof among one another.
  • Belief that most things outside our own community and nation are inferior and threatening, that the world is jealous of the American lifestyle.
  • Personal pride in equality. No man, however rich or powerful, is better than me.
  • Perseverance and belief in hard work. If a man or a family is poor, it is because they did not work hard enough. God rewards those who work hard enough. So does the American system.
  • The only free country in the world is the United States, and the only reason we ever go to war is to protect that freedom.

Ian

Fine standards to live by.
That list above is high praise indeed.

Quote:
The National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant (a.k.a. Covenanters) signed documents stating that Scotland desired a Presbyterian Church government, and rejected the Church of England as their official church (no Anglican congregation was ever accepted as the official church in Scotland). In doing so, the Covenanters rejected episcopacy — rule by bishops — the preferred form of church government in England. Many of the Covenanters signed these documents using their own blood, and many in the movement began wearing red pieces of cloth around their neck to signify their position to the public. They were referred to as rednecks.[1] Large numbers of these Scottish Presbyterians migrated from their lowland Scottish home to Ulster (the northern province of Ireland) and soon settled in considerable numbers in North America throughout the 18th century. Some emigrated directly from Scotland to the American colonies in the late 18th and early 19th-centuries as a result of the Lowland Clearances. This etymological theory holds that since many Scots-Irish Americans and Scottish Americans who settled in Appalachia and the South were Presbyterian, the term was bestowed upon them and their descendants.
Old 09-09-2008, 01:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
billwagnon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: St. Louis Missouri
Posts: 1,454
haha operation "Just Cause"
Old 09-09-2008, 01:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York, NY USA
Posts: 4,269
Ian - Classic BBC taxpayer funder drivel. And we complain about PBS!

You cut out the best part:

"American ethos"

"The term redneck indicates a lifestyle and culture that can be found in every state in our union. The essentials of redneck culture were brought to America by what we call the Scots Irish, after first being shipped to the Ulster Plantation... Ultimately, the Scots Irish have had more of an effect on the American ethos than any other immigrant group."



Of the points above - I will comment on two at random:

#2 - WWII gave us the same argument. Many said we were not threatened by Hitler. Bageant should be glad most thought otherwise.

#5 - Countless legals and millions of illegals and still counting. A few more million Limeys if they could only get a green card..

Last edited by The Gaijin; 09-09-2008 at 01:17 PM..
Old 09-09-2008, 01:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Used Up User
 
imcarthur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,311
Garage
The author was born & lives in Winchester, Virginia.

Ian
__________________
'87 Carrera Cab

----- “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” A. Einstein -----
Old 09-09-2008, 01:21 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 11,257
we are far from being perfect or the best,
we are however better than rest of you,
that is hard for people to accept,swallow ..whatever..choke for all I care.

Rika
Old 09-09-2008, 01:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Mt. Doom
Posts: 1,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by imcarthur View Post
The author was born & lives in Winchester, Virginia.

Ian
He must of missed that boat back when the Brits were sent back to England. Well, it's about time he sets sail. You know, rednecks are perfectly capable of making lists of generalizing other people as well.

I'm only half Redneck though.
__________________
3.2 targa
Old 09-09-2008, 01:26 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Zef Zef is offline
THE IRONMAN
 
Zef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,642
Garage
I like the last point...
The only free country in the world is the United States, and the only reason we ever go to war is to protect that freedom.
But don't sacrifice the freedom to keep it...USA now earn his a$$ to China who is financing the occupation....Hoooooooooo...Popcorn time my friend...!
__________________
1984 911 CARRERA RUBY RED TARGA
SW CHIPPED-BURSCH CATBYPASS
MONTY FREE FLOW EXHAUST

<IN GAS WE TRUST>
Old 09-09-2008, 01:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Mt. Doom
Posts: 1,019
Jeff Foxworthy's definition of a redneck;

"A glorious absence of sophistication".
__________________
3.2 targa
Old 09-09-2008, 01:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 6,930
LOLz

I love living in the Midwest. Coasters haven't got a clue!
Old 09-09-2008, 01:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Rick Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
Posts: 44,469
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by imcarthur View Post
The author was born & lives in Winchester, Virginia.

Ian
Winchester, VA is definitely redneck territory. Been there many times.

I am also a redneck. I've gotten ammunition in my Xmas stocking. I've skipped church to reload with my dad. Yes, really.

The best part about being a redneck, though, really the most satisfying part is pissing off elitist snobs. That's why I so enjoy wearing a sidearm openly on my belt when on my bike and then looking for cars with CA plates to pass on the left so they can see my right hip and hate me. What a country!
__________________
2022 BMW 530i
2021 MB GLA250
2020 BMW R1250GS
Old 09-09-2008, 01:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Higgs Field
Posts: 22,602
Quote:
Originally Posted by imcarthur View Post
The author was born & lives in Winchester, Virginia.

Ian
That no more makes him a redneck than being born in Harlem or Watts makes one a niggah.

It's a state of mind; a state of being. Lack of education is not a prerequiset, either. There are far more redneck PhD's than anyone would like to admit.
__________________
Jeff
'72 911T 3.0 MFI
'93 Ducati 900 Super Sport
"God invented whiskey so the Irish wouldn't rule the world"
Old 09-09-2008, 01:47 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
dheinz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: USA
Posts: 761
What's you talkin' about no sofistication???

__________________
Eddie
Old 09-09-2008, 01:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Zef Zef is offline
THE IRONMAN
 
Zef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,642
Garage
Sorry Ian...this thread is interesting nobody here...Ya know...Redneck don't drive Porsche...huuuuu....exept in Tennessee...
__________________
1984 911 CARRERA RUBY RED TARGA
SW CHIPPED-BURSCH CATBYPASS
MONTY FREE FLOW EXHAUST

<IN GAS WE TRUST>
Old 09-09-2008, 01:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Did you get the memo?
 
onewhippedpuppy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 32,351
I guess I need to purchase a confederate flag, pickup, and gun rack. However, I WILL NOT listen to country.
__________________
‘07 Mazda RX8-8
Past: 911T, 911SC, Carrera, 951s, 955, 996s, 987s, 986s, 997s, BMW 5x, C36, C63, XJR, S8, Maserati Coupe, GT500, etc
Old 09-09-2008, 02:02 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: West
Posts: 8,383
Garage
For some odd reason this thread brings this song to my mind:

The preacher man says it’s the end of time
And the Mississippi River she’s a goin’ dry
The interest is up and the Stock Markets down
And you only get mugged
If you go down town

I live back in the woods, you see
A woman and the kids, and the dogs and me
I got a shotgun rifle and a 4-wheel drive
And a country boy can survive
Country folks can survive

I can plow a field all day long
I can catch catfish from dusk till dawn
We make our own whiskey and our own smoke too
Ain’t too many things these ole boys can’t do
We grow good ole tomatoes and homemade wine
And a country boy can survive
Country folks can survive

Because you can’t starve us out
And you cant makes us run
Cause one-of- ‘em old boys raisin ole shotgun
And we say grace and we say Ma’am
And if you ain’t into that we don’t give a damn

We came from the West Virginia coalmines
And the Rocky Mountains and the and the western skies
And we can skin a buck; we can run a trot-line
And a country boy can survive
Country folks can survive

I had a good friend in New York City
He never called me by my name, just hillbilly
My grandpa taught me how to live off the land
And his taught him to be a businessman
He used to send me pictures of the Broadway nights
And I’d send him some homemade wine

But he was killed by a man with a switchblade knife
For 43 dollars my friend lost his life
Id love to spit some beechnut in that dudes eyes
And shoot him with my old 45
Cause a country boy can survive
Country folks can survive

Cause you can’t starve us out and you can’t make us run
Cause one-of- ‘em old boys raisin ole shotgun
And we say grace and we say Ma’am
And if you ain’t into that we don’t give a damn

We’re from North California and south Alabam
And little towns all around this land
And we can skin a buck; we can run a trot-line
And a country boy can survive
Country folks can survive
Old 09-09-2008, 02:04 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Seldom Seen Member
 
Burnin' oil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: California
Posts: 3,584
That song makes me crave Skoal and cheap beer. The good ole days.
__________________
Why do things that happen to white trash always happen to me?

Got nachos?
Old 09-09-2008, 02:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: West
Posts: 8,383
Garage
mmm Skoal, if only I could....

Quit once, definitely don't want to start again.

Cheap beer though, bring it ON.

Old 09-09-2008, 02:08 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:49 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.