For the tool junkies

[whiskyb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHrmvQKevfI

Not sure if I would have the nerve to test this thing like he does or not. He definitely believes in his product.

[MBAtarga]

Do a search. Sawstop has been discussed here in the past - the technology is patented and it works.

[svandamme]

saw that, frankly, i'm not convinced

sawdust or other dirt on your thumb, conductivity gone, chops.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by svandamme

saw that, frankly, i'm not convinced

sawdust or other dirt on your thumb, conductivity gone, chops.

Nah - even on a dry, dusty or gloved hand, once it hits the first blod vessel under the skin - stops.

I think you can still cut your finger, but we are talking 1mm cuts vs. amputations. These saws are sold nationwide - they work.

George

[Tim Hancock]

Ridiculous.... one more step towards the wussification of America. I pity the manufacturers of tools. Someday the cost of idiot proofing tools to avoid lawsuits will drive them out of business.

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

Ridiculous.... one more step towards the wussification of America.

LOL, real men count to 9

My brother in law is an emergency room DR... he is forever telling me about guys coming in clutching their bloody hands, the wife following with a baggie of digits.

I don't think these guys are wussies... seem like smart guys who got their money's worth:
http://www.sawstop.com/finger_saves.php

The Contractor table saw is $2500... a hard pill to swallow for DIYers who typically buy used table saws for <$500. Especially considering we can get our fingeres sewn back on for free up here.

[Danimal16]

Wow, cool.

[lendaddy]

So when my saw cuts into a wet spot in the wood what happens? Or maybe a stray brad? It's very cool to watch though.

[red-beard]

I was watch "Seebees of the Navy" over the weekend, and they had really old, no guards, etc, saws spinning in a shack.

[ruf-porsche]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

Ridiculous.... one more step towards the wussification of America. I pity the manufacturers of tools. Someday the cost of idiot proofing tools to avoid lawsuits will drive them out of business.

People are stupid that is why cars are equipped with ABS, Traction Control, SRS and crumple zone.

[Seric]

Bah, I thought you meant Tool!

[peppy]

Originally Posted by notfarnow

LOL, real men count to 9

My brother in law is an emergency room DR... he is forever telling me about guys coming in clutching their bloody hands, the wife following with a baggie of digits.

I don't think these guys are wussies... seem like smart guys who got their money's worth:
http://www.sawstop.com/finger_saves.php

The Contractor table saw is $2500... a hard pill to swallow for DIYers who typically buy used table saws for <$500. Especially considering we can get our fingeres sewn back on for free up here.

My dad got his fingers caught in a jointer, and my mom stopped by the restaurant to get something to eat on the way to the emergency room. She really was kind of mean.

[slodave]

My dad has one. Great device!

Here's what happens when you touch the blade...

[slodave]

Originally Posted by ruf-porsche

People are stupid that is why cars are equipped with ABS, Traction Control, SRS and crumple zone.

How wrong you are. While I do have a few scars from doing stupid things, I also have one from a band saw and I was being careful. Things happen and so fast, you don't have time to react.

As for using a Sawstop, I am still just as careful as I was on a regular saw. While the product is really good, it too, can malfunction and one can still lose body parts.

[VaSteve]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

Ridiculous.... one more step towards the wussification of America.

That's a pretty ignorant statement. From the clip, this looks like an add on anyhow, no mandated equipment.

I just bought a saw this summer and was using it in my driveway. I was leaning over the table (without the guard on) and my son came up and flipped the switch. It was almost "bye bye dad". Yes, it was all my fault, but bad **** happens quick. That is a neat innovation.

[slodave]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

That's a pretty ignorant statement. From the clip, this looks like an add on anyhow, no mandated equipment.

The inventor originally tried to sell it as an add-on for regular table saws, but none would go for it, so he created his own table saw.

It's not exactly a $60.- replacement though. The blade is history as well.

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by slodave

The inventor originally tried to sell it as an add-on for regular table saws, but none would go for it, so he created his own table saw.

I bet they are kicking themselves now, because in woodworking magazine shootouts the SawStop cabinet saw has consistently ranked up there with the best, and in terms of price it is only a small premium to pay. I wonder how many of them are banging on SawStop's door now.

The cost is harder to justify with the contractor style saws, but still cheaper than having your hand frankensteined back together.

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

That's a pretty ignorant statement. From the clip, this looks like an add on anyhow, no mandated equipment.

I just bought a saw this summer and was using it in my driveway. I was leaning over the table (without the guard on) and my son came up and flipped the switch. It was almost "bye bye dad". Yes, it was all my fault, but bad **** happens quick. That is a neat innovation.

It is a slippery slope..... I design automated machines for a living. The cost of the ever increasing demands for safety coupled with lawsuits against the manufacturers of machinery is getting out of hand. I assure you I am not ignorant about machinery and tools. I just happen to think that individuals need to take responsibility for safe operation of machines, cars, airplanes, tools, motorcycles, knives, guns etc.

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

It is a slippery slope..... I design automated machines for a living. The cost of the ever increasing demands for safety coupled with lawsuits against the manufacturers of machinery is getting out of hand. I assure you I am not ignorant about machinery and tools. I just happen to think that individuals need to take responsibility for safe operation of machines, cars, airplanes, tools, motorcycles, knives, guns etc.

Sure but this one is pretty much a no-brainer. So many careful woodworkers do EVERYTHING RIGHT and still end up only being able to count to 7 or 8. If I was buying a cabinet saw, there is no question I'd spring for the extra few hundred bucks. Heck it'd be worth it just because I'm squeamish and would probably pass out and wet myself at the sight of a dangling digit.

And remember, no-one's mandating anything. SawStop makes pro-grade table saws with a target market way above the average hobbyist/DIYer. One would think the "pro" woodworkers would be the most careful... but obviously they see the value in this.

How much do seat belts cost? Trigger safeties?

[VaSteve]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

It is a slippery slope..... I design automated machines for a living. The cost of the ever increasing demands for safety coupled with lawsuits against the manufacturers of machinery is getting out of hand. I assure you I am not ignorant about machinery and tools. I just happen to think that individuals need to take responsibility for safe operation of machines, cars, airplanes, tools, motorcycles, knives, guns etc.

Agreed. However, I don't see why you poo-poo this guy's innovation?