does my idea of Utopia exist? where to live?

[therotman]

Originally Posted by Jared Fenton

+1. I'm pretty sure I'll go back there eventually. But yeah, there's NO jobs.

I don't think that is one of Vash's main concerns.



Portland did just win the honor of America's unhappiest citiy.

[IROC]

Originally Posted by Burnin' oil

It's gotta be an isolated large town, small city, i.e., not part of a metropolis. Ain't no good huntin' otherwise and Vashy might as well stay in the Bay Area.

They shot a black bear in the mall parking lot here last year. Plus, a metropolitan area population of around 650k ensures lots of restaurants, symphonies, etc. Views of the Smoky Mountains are astounding and we're less than an hour from the Great Smoky Mt National Park. Plus, there are four large lakes within 30 minutes of my house.

And no state income tax!!

[jbryant]

Galts Gulch, CO

[bivenator]

Austin TX or one of the surrounding towns.

[Burnin' oil]

No state income tax? What is wrong with you people.

[nostatic]

San Diego


40 years ago

[URY914]

Greenland

[JTO]

I've lived in all the West Coast states. The Puget Sound area is crowded and gray. It can be beautiful. Its were I grew up. It calls to me sometimes. I just don't know if I can handle the wet.

Oregon has some great areas, Portland not being one of them. Its crowded, wet, but there is a great Porsche resource there in Steve Weiner and Rennsport Systems. I found it really difficult to find the great outdoors in Portland. It seemed everyone else was trying to also and the roads outa there were always packed.

Southern Oregon has a great climate but literally no jobs. Culture? Not much but there might be something called culture in Ashland.

California? You know all about the strengths and weaknesses.

My universal complaint about all three is that they don't manage their fish and wildlife well. It is difficult to have a good hunt anymore. Its been going that way for twenty years...

Good luck,
Troy

[jyl]

The requirement of opera, theatre and ballet seems to disqualify most all of the bucolic small towns mentioned above.

[Burnin' oil]

Vash is talking about 20-30 years down the road. It will all be a gray wasteland by then anyway.

[vash]

austin texas...hmmm. humid during the summer...decent the rest of the time.

strong contender.

[vash]

Originally Posted by burnin' oil

vash is talking about 20-30 years down the road. It will all be a gray wasteland by then anyway.

lol!

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by jyl

The requirement of opera, theatre and ballet seems to disqualify most all of the bucolic small towns mentioned above.

I can assure you that Asheville, NC (although a neat place imo), doesn't qualify

[Taz's Master]

Originally Posted by jyl

The requirement of opera, theatre and ballet seems to disqualify most all of the bucolic small towns mentioned above.

Find a town that has a college/university with a respected arts program.

[tabs]

If money were NO OBJECT...the best place in the world I can imagine living in is Moncetio, CA..which is on the South side of Santa Barbara. All the amenities you could want and close enought to a large metro area to be convient. Absolutely beautiful inthose hills over looking the Pacific. Ophra spent 50M for a house over looking the Pacific there about 10 years ago.

San Luis Obispo CA and the Central Coast would also qualify...just less close to the metro area, and a bit more rural.

That said...

Tucson is very nice, small town feel with amenities and clsoe enough to Phoenix, AZ However it is desert and gets warm

I need to check out Prescott, AZ..cooler in summer but not too cold in winter.

Saint George, Utah is another nice destination.

I hear NZ is nice...

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Taz's Master

Find a town that has a college/university with a respected arts program.

Bingo.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Burnin' oil

I really like the Bend, Oregon, area. Great for outdoor activities and Bend is a cool town. Good weather, hunting, fishing, skiing, golf, rock climbing.

Bend is great...my Dad lived there for five years. The only problem was transportation out: He was consulting in those days and, in the winter, his choice of airlines was either "Panic in a Can" commuter airlines out of Redmond over the Cascades, or driving through the Cascades in the snow to Portland, hours away.

He drove through a lot of snow.

Perhaps he thought I was piloting the commuter plane.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

I love S.L.O. and the surrounding areas (Pismo Beach, etc.) but the biggest problem is they're in CA. For someone into the outdoors it's okay - not so much if you're into guns or actually having civil liberties.

[Seahawk]

To the question.

If you care to move to the east coast, there are utopias. Me, I'm moving west when the kiddies get in college.

I'm not sharing

[livi]

I would recommend the outskirts of Göteborg.