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The Gaijin 04-29-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4634560)


Apparently a Mexican National visiting the US.

tcar 04-29-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4634199)
First US death, in TX.

Kid was already sick with the flu when he came to Houston from Mexico.

Came for treatment.

Hard to call it the first US flu death...

Tishabet 04-29-2009 09:32 AM

First cases in New England just confirmed... in my town. Great.

http://www.boston.com/news/health/blog/2009/04/lowell_children.html

Rot 911 04-29-2009 09:55 AM

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

afterburn 549 04-29-2009 12:28 PM

Am I mising something here ??? 10 to 20 dead and this much of a knee jerk reation (media and the rest)
More people die in car wrecks ea day..whats the deal here ?

onewhippedpuppy 04-29-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 4635096)
Am I mising something here ??? 10 to 20 dead and this much of a knee jerk reation (media and the rest)
More people die in car wrecks ea day..whats the deal here ?

People are illogical sissies, the media are unethical morons who thrive on fear mongering. That pretty much sums it up.

legion 04-29-2009 12:47 PM

Car accidents are a common and well-understood risk. There is nothing to sensationalize there.

A new disease is scary and its risk is hard to understand quickly.

svandamme 04-29-2009 12:54 PM

because it's a new strain with combined elements that form a high potential of a massive pandemic
one that would carry a death rate of 10x what normal yearly flu carries...And it's more effective at killing young people because of the way it works...

so you got :
- Human to Human infections
- it's a mix of avian, swine and human flu
- potential to change very fast ( like becoming resistent to Tamifly or Relenza)
- potential for a 5% mortality of those infected
- It affects mainly younger people
- nature's #1 job is balancing things out, right now, we have upset the balance, so it's to be expected that nature will try it's best to fix it, us that is.

You say knee jerk reaction now, but if there was no reaction... and everybody just ignored the threat,
then we might very well have woken up one day with the 1918 flu pandemic,
times 10, more people on the planet, more and bigger cities, more and faster travel....

Should we panic right now? no.
Should we be paying attention? Hell yes.

svandamme 04-29-2009 01:08 PM

The wiki page shows the infections and deaths and is updated regulary..

If you consider that last friday, there was nothing known to us.

And now this thing is updated... daily... with numbers that go up each day...
And that these things spread exponentially... it doesn't take a wild imagination


Spain 3 days ago, 1st suspected infection... now, 10 confirmed
US, 3 days ago..5 =10 ... now 93 confirmed
Mexico... up in the thousands...

You have to keep in mind, that these things don't start off fast.. but as they go along, it spreads exponentially...

Mexico : began last month, a lot of nothing for a while, then it went up like crazy in no time..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tion-graph.png

You have to take that flat line , and extrapolate it to each possible new area of infection... If that graph is representative for what is going to happen, then You can expect to see the toll rise in each of the countries..

The only thing the CDC knows 100% sure, is that they do not know where 100% of all infected people are... They have reports of people who only had a mild reaction to it... but were still infectious... So carriers may not even know they have it and spread it unknowingly...

All this time, the virus can spread, and at any given time, it may devellop into a fully resistent strain...

sammyg2 04-29-2009 01:41 PM

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pmax 03-25-2020 10:18 AM

Posting the swine flu toll since we're in the midst of the Wuhan flu crisis.

The former killed a lot more young folks and spared the elderly in relative terms.

Quote:

“CDC estimates that between 41 million and 84 million cases of 2009 H1N1 occurred between April 2009 and January 16, 2010,” the agency said in a statement. Usually the CDC goes with a middle number, which it puts at about 57 million people infected.

Between 8,330 and 17,160 people died during that time from H1N1, with a middle range of about 12,000, the CDC said.
But between 880 and 1,800 children died, up to 13,000 adults under the age of 65 and only 1,000 to 2,000 elderly.

...
The CDC estimate shows that between 183,000 and 378,000 people were hospitalized with H1N1 swine flu from April to January.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-flu-usa-idUSN1223579720100212

GG Allin 03-25-2020 11:52 AM

I posted in this thread on 4-26-09. Earlier that month I was sick as hell, a memorable sickness. Only reason I remember the date is because we did a family road trip to St Petersburg FL, ALMS race weekend. Now I wonder if that's what I had. Didn't occur to me at the time.

2.7RS 03-26-2020 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead (Post 4628776)
Too many people.

Thin the herd.

Don't fuch with Mother Nature.

Amen

tabs 04-22-2020 01:44 AM

I was right after all.

svandamme 04-22-2020 01:59 AM

NO YOU ARE NOT Tabs

you said 180 million will succumb to it !
It's not even 180k at this point !!!


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