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I'm printing these rules and presenting them at our next vespa club meeting... I'm so excited!
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these people are rediculos its these people that give real motorcyclists a bad name
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Are these guys known as the R Gruppe?
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Do any of you actually know what a 1%er is? In a nut shell it's 1% of 'club members' that will kill someone for that club or brother. I rode Harleys for quite awhile and knew my share of hardcore bikers. I was a pallbearer for the President of the Iron Horsemen in Maine when he died. Now that was a great seen. Me in a 3 piece suit with 5 dudes in their colors. You do not F with them and no, loggers would not kick their ass.
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How can rockets be a part of the club...

2. Prospects must have a Harley-Davidson motorcycle

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Are these guys known as the R Gruppe?
I was expecting that...shamefully, I must confess to having had the same thought.
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Do any of you actually know what a 1%er is? In a nut shell it's 1% of 'club members' that will kill someone for that club or brother. I rode Harleys for quite awhile and knew my share of hardcore bikers. I was a pallbearer for the President of the Iron Horsemen in Maine when he died. Now that was a great seen. Me in a 3 piece suit with 5 dudes in their colors. You do not F with them and no, loggers would not kick their ass.
To shorten an old tale...a group of "Gypsy Jokers" (Then rivals of the Angels) went into the Maples Tavern of Cascadia, Oregon on a Friday night some decades back, told the loggers to get out, that they wanted the place to themselves. 'Twas the bikers who left...in tatters. Don't mess with people who carry heavy gear up and down steep brush covered hillsides...
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Don't mess with people who carry heavy gear up and down steep brush covered hillsides...
LOL, good point.
I may have that a bit wrong. It may be a 1%er IS someone that has killed. I do think that is correct. They, the law, figures the number that has killed is 1%.
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To shorten an old tale...a group of "Gypsy Jokers" (Then rivals of the Angels) went into the Maples Tavern of Cascadia, Oregon on a Friday night some decades back, told the loggers to get out, that they wanted the place to themselves. 'Twas the bikers who left...in tatters. Don't mess with people who carry heavy gear up and down steep brush covered hillsides...
Similar story up here in Darrington (old time logging town about two hours northeast of Seattle) almost 30 years ago:

It was the weekend of the annual Darrington Logging Festival. Some older guys in the shop I was working in at the time invited me up to check it out. They lived out that way, so I was just going to meet them there on Saturday morning. Seemed like a great bike ride as well, so I hopped on the old (actually kinda new back then...) Sporty and rode up.

I was immediately descended upon by some very unhappy looking loggers, the minute I pulled into the fairground parking lot. My buddies got there pretty quick and calmed everyone down, telling them I was "o.k." and "with them". They (the loggers) got real friendly just as fast as they had gotten upset earlier. I didn't know what the hell was going on.

Several hours later, we could hear what sounded like a pretty fair number of bikes approaching. All the events stopped. All the men headed out to the parking lot. Their wives and kids stayed in the grandstands, booths, and whatnot. The men started pulling hunting rifles, shotguns, chainsaws, and axes out of their trucks. They started the chainsaws.

There were three or four sheriff's deputies on hand. About the time the men got over to the parking lot, all of the sheriff's cars were pulling out. Then the bikes came down the highway, about 20-30 of them, and turned into the parking lot. Every rifle and shotgun in the place got leveled at them, and the guys with the chainsaws and axes started approaching them. The bikers never slowed down, making one pass through the lot and leaving the way they came. When they were gone, the deputies came back.

WTF, over??? I was dumbfounded. What had I just seen? Well, my older buddies explained it all to me. Seems a handful of these bikers had been in town the night before, raising hell at the only bar. Threatening people, acting tough, that kind of crap. Some of the locals had taken exception. What my buddies described as a minor scuffle broke out, ending with all but one said biker prostrate on the floor of said bar. The one that wasn't prostrate on the floor was pinned to a pool table, getting a haircut. They cut his ponytail off.

So, the bikers collect themselves, and head out. But not before threatening to come back tomorrow and have their own little "fair" at the logging fair. It looked like they tried...

I shudder to think what could have happened had these bikers tried a little harder. Several dozen men armed as these loggers were would have made pretty short work of them. They clearly just weren't going to put up with one little bit of crap on the day of their fair. Good for them. Good for my buddies, too, who got there in time to save a dumb kid that had stumbled into this...
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Fascinating thread. I'm reading that whole site posted in the first post.

OT Question: Being from the other side of the country....how much wood is there left to log? I saw one of those logging shows on Discover channel. Yeah, I know trees can grow back and all, but with modern machines isn't there a point when we've cut too many of them down and have to let them regrow?
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You must be watching "axemen"...the big trees those guys are cutting? Planted as seedlings 30-50 years ago...trees grow fast & big here. A crop, much like midwest corn. Just takes longer to grow than corn, that's all.

To answer your question...lots of trees left...
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Yeah..I can believe that. Even a NW logger has some standards!
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Do any of you actually know what a 1%er is? In a nut shell it's 1% of 'club members' that will kill someone for that club or brother.
Jeezus don't be such a drama queen. The story behind the "1%" is quite well known. At events, the AMA gave awards for the best-dressed club so this was the start of motorcycle club’s patches.

During an event in 1947 in Hollister, CA when a member of the Booze Fighters Motorcycle Club made the headlines with an exaggerated news story that was later made into a movie called "The Wild Ones".

The AMA wrote an article in their magazine, shortly after this stating, “99% of all of their members are law-abiding citizens and only 1% are “outlaw””.

Back in my military days at Ft. Bragg I became a member of the Chosen Few MC. Yes we had rockers and yes there was a certain amount of "rowdiness", but mostly we just wanted to hang together and be left alone.

As an aside, a number of black sport bike riders have formed their own MC clubs.
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Jeezus don't be such a drama queen. The story behind the "1%" is quite well known. At events, the AMA gave awards for the best-dressed club so this was the start of motorcycle club’s patches.

During an event in 1947 in Hollister, CA when a member of the Booze Fighters Motorcycle Club made the headlines with an exaggerated news story that was later made into a movie called "The Wild Ones".

The AMA wrote an article in their magazine, shortly after this stating, “99% of all of their members are law-abiding citizens and only 1% are “outlaw””.

Back in my military days at Ft. Bragg I became a member of the Chosen Few MC. Yes we had rockers and yes there was a certain amount of "rowdiness", but mostly we just wanted to hang together and be left alone.

As an aside, a number of black sport bike riders have formed their own MC clubs.
And you're an authority because you saw a movie? That's great. I saw the same flick. That may be what it meant in 1947
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Its 99% of the Citizenery that are law abiding and only 1% chose the OUTLAW path...
Vagos, Mongols and Angels...even the Brotherhood of the Sun...
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These clubs were a dying breed 20-30 years ago. I'm actually not all that surprised that they have made a comeback, with the increased popularity of motorcycling. Patch holders used to be a rare sight, now it's impossible to go to a biker event without seeing them. They've risen from the ashes to a new level of prominence and sophistication.

And no, you don't have to kill someone to join. You don't even have to be a criminal. You have to be willing to put up with a lot of criminal activity, and look the other way, but none of these clubs actually require you to break the law. As a matter of fact, they would prefer you didn't. Their lives are hard enough...

Law enforcement has done a commendable job of beating some sense into these guys. You will notice that all of the trouble we hear about these days is inter-club - they rarely involve "civilians". So, what the hell - let them beat on, stab, and shoot each other all they want - as long as there is no "collateral damage". As long as they don't bring it outside their own little gutter. When they do, hammer them as hard as the law allows. That is what has been happening, and they seem to be getting the message. They are nothing if not polite when I see them at biker gatherings. They actually go to great lengths to avoid contact with anyone outside their club, even if they have gone to great lengths to go to an event... kinda weird, really...

The biggest event in our area is the Oyster Run up in Anacortes. Most have no idea it's a club event, organized by the Bandidos. It's a well-run, very organized event, and I've never heard of a lick of trouble. Even with rival clubs in attendance. Limp Lee and company do a fantastic job on this event. Granted, much of this effort has an ulterior motive - that of improving their public image. Behind the scenes, though, the clubs still control meth production and distribution, prostitution, and other family-friendly activities in this area. They have learned if they want to stay in those games, it's best not to go around starting bar fights anymore...
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i love motorcycling and i used to know people like this ( uncle, he left my aunt, long story)and i never really respected them or even was afraid of them i just saw them as dirtbags.
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