Now a 72 Year Old Woman tazed

[Tim Hancock]

Originally Posted by masraum

I haven't watched the video, but when a cop asks you to do something, just do it, and you won't have problems. .......

Just don't put yourself in the position for the cop to be considering his options and you won't have a problem.

+1

Mouthing off to a cop is just as stupid as telling a judge in court or your drill sgt in basic training to fuch off. Oh well, you guys go ahead and mouth off to the cops all you want the next time you break the law..... then be sure to wear a wife beater, ratty shorts and flip-flops to court and be sure to tell the judge to eff off also.

I on the other hand, will keep my hands on the steering wheel as a cop approaches my car and I will answer his questions with yes/no sir then sign my ticket and be on my way. If I then decide to fight it in court, I will wear nice clothes and address the judge respectfully.

I guess my parents raised me wrong..... maybe if I had better parents like some of you, they would have taught me to disrespect law enforcement, teachers, judges and my drill sgt. Hell, maybe by now I would be living in luxury after sueing a cop for tasing me or for getting my @ss beat for telling my drill sgt to shut the fuch up.

[the]

Tim, I understand what you are saying, but it cuts both ways.

Yeah, if that cop pulled you over, I am certain it would not have ended with a tasing.

But, on the other hand, if YOU were the cop, and pulled over that woman, and that woman acted the same way she did in the video, I am equally certain it also would have not ended in a tasing.

Why? Because you are a reasonable, sane person who could have handled that minor situation in a professional manner, without escalating it to a tasing. The cop, on the other hand, was an unprofessional meathead with a power complex.

[nynor]

the officer could have just let her get back in the car. then again, she did walk right into him. since when is assaulting an officer a good idea? then she seems to think that her status as a 72 year old female somehow gives her carte blanche to behave however she wishes. she, anyone else who thinks they are special due to some perceived status (age, sex, color, religion, whatever) and, therefore above the law, should be tazed out of hand.

[88-diamondblue]

Agree with Moses on two idiots. What is the problem for me is he is twice her size and needs to taze her. Cuff her and arrest her. Tazering kills people! Thats already been shown many times. Does anybody here think that he would have had any problem putting the cuffs on her and arresting her.

Video cuts two ways, we get to see the videos that show officers doing their job and it also let everyone see the bad apples in law enforcement along with the idiots out there.

If you don't sign the ticket here they don't care. If you don't show up or pay then they come and arrest you.

[rpastir]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

This is an idiotic statement.

And this woman's "crime"? 60 in a 45 zone....what a freaking joke. And what's so "dangerous" about this stretch of road? It's no different than any other.

And why not let her get back in the car? She already signed the frakking ticket. Total fking scumbag cop provoked this entire incident. On top of it, they charge HER with resisting arrest.

As for the "what's the cop supposed to have done?" crowd, how about simply picking her up, putting her over your shoulder, and carrying her where ever you wanted her to be and simply putting her down?

Nah, this woman needed a dose of 150,000 volts just so some scumbag control freak could get his rocks off.


Same here. I thought it was that way everywhere. What possible reason could exist to lock people up for not signing a ticket?

There is none.


YEP

The cop was a scumbag control freak though...

You yell and disagree with other people by telling them that their arguments are "idiotic"...yet you make no valid points of your own.

If the lady accepted the ticket without acting like a douche, everybody involved would have gone on their way and we wouldn't be discussing this.

[Super_Dave_D]

I told you Sniper was coming!! LOL

[trekkor]

You fellas do know that more people die each year from lightning strikes than from the taze...


KT

[vash]

Originally Posted by trekkor

You fellas do know that more people die each year from lightning strikes than from the taze...


KT

God is a better tazer-er

[slakjaw]

that old lady got dealt!

[Rick Lee]

Why should the cop have to wrestle with the old lady, or anyone for that matter, to get them cuffed? You know he'd still be accused of police brutality if he had had to get physical with her. I'd say giving her ample warning that the TASER was coming out and then doing it was better than taking her down physically and risking further injury to both of them.

[slakjaw]

ok ok I didnt know you were serious I will sign the ticket.


ZAP

I am sorry guys I think its funny.. I mean she DID tell the cop to taze her.

[Whtnkls911]

Once the officer advised her she was under arrest it's a done deal, PERIOD. You don't get a second chance. He gave her ample opportunity to comply, once he advised her she was under arrest, which he had warned her she would be, it's done.

Originally Posted by Moses

Pair of morons. One has a tazer.

Shortly after the stupid woman exits the truck she says, "OK, I'll sign the #$%&ing thing." Should have been done right there. Had the officer responded with "Thank you, ma'am." There would have been no need for a tazer.

[Jeff Higgins]

Most of you are still missing the key point in all of this. The cop could have written "refuses to sign" on the ticket, handed it to her through the window, and been on his way. Any inquiry needs to focus on why he did not do that. Why, with this option available, he opened the door and started this confrontation. There was no need for it.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by the

Tim, I understand what you are saying, but it cuts both ways.

Yeah, if that cop pulled you over, I am certain it would not have ended with a tasing.

But, on the other hand, if YOU were the cop, and pulled over that woman, and that woman acted the same way she did in the video, I am equally certain it also would have not ended in a tasing.

Why? Because you are a reasonable, sane person who could have handled that minor situation in a professional manner, without escalating it to a tasing. The cop, on the other hand, was an unprofessional meathead with a power complex.

this is the best post I have ever read here

Originally Posted by Whtnkls911

Once the officer advised her she was under arrest it's a done deal, PERIOD. You don't get a second chance. He gave her ample opportunity to comply, once he advised her she was under arrest, which he had warned her she would be, it's done.

This is false

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by the

Tim, I understand what you are saying, but it cuts both ways.

Yeah, if that cop pulled you over, I am certain it would not have ended with a tasing.

But, on the other hand, if YOU were the cop, and pulled over that woman, and that woman acted the same way she did in the video, I am equally certain it also would have not ended in a tasing.

Why? Because you are a reasonable, sane person who could have handled that minor situation in a professional manner, without escalating it to a tasing. The cop, on the other hand, was an unprofessional meathead with a power complex.

Yep, that's the way i see it too.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by rpastir

You yell and disagree with other people by telling them that their arguments are "idiotic"...yet you make no valid points of your own.

If the lady accepted the ticket without acting like a douche, everybody involved would have gone on their way and we wouldn't be discussing this.

Clearly that justifies the cop pushing an old lady around twice, and then pumping her with 150,000 volts. And of course one could also state that if the cop was not a total control freak jackass the lady would have simply left without further incident after she signed the ticket. Or for that matter, she should have been let go after she refused. The ticket is still valid without her signature.

NOPE. This is a matter of Joe Lawman wanting RESPECT god dammit. Much like Cartman from South Park, Johnny Lawman said "You WILL respect my athorit-ay"

And hey, here's a valid point. Cops shouldn't taze old people. Ever. But of course i did offer several valid points in the post you quoted. Apparently they were too subtle for you. My apologies.
Jackass.

Originally Posted by nynor

the officer could have just let her get back in the car. then again, she did walk right into him. since when is assaulting an officer a good idea? then she seems to think that her status as a 72 year old female somehow gives her carte blanche to behave however she wishes. she, anyone else who thinks they are special due to some perceived status (age, sex, color, religion, whatever) and, therefore above the law, should be tazed out of hand.

Either this belongs in green text, or you are insane.

And whatever happened to respecting one's elders? Lots of old people are very set in their ways and can be a bit of a handful, but should we be pumping them with massive quantities of voltage just because they do not submit EXACTLY how we say?

I think not.

Originally Posted by Super_Dave_D

I told you Sniper was coming!! LOL

You know i'm not one to disappoint.

Originally Posted by trekkor

You fellas do know that more people die each year from lightning strikes than from the taze...

For the life of me, i cannot figure out how this statement is in any way relevant to the discussion...

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Most of you are still missing the key point in all of this. The cop could have written "refuses to sign" on the ticket, handed it to her through the window, and been on his way. Any inquiry needs to focus on why he did not do that. Why, with this option available, he opened the door and started this confrontation. There was no need for it.

We already know the answer to that question, don't we? And yet cops wonder why they're despised by the general public...

Originally Posted by Whtnkls911

Once the officer advised her she was under arrest it's a done deal, PERIOD. You don't get a second chance. He gave her ample opportunity to comply, once he advised her she was under arrest, which he had warned her she would be, it's done.

He never arrested her prior to the tazing.

He should have never even removed her from her vehicle. Nor should he have made a fuss about exactly where she was standing. It was all about him having TOTAL control and being respected to HIS satisfaction. Simple as that.

God, please, someone invent robotic cops.

[Tobra]

It is not germaine, KT was just trying to be funny, and

FAILED

just kiddin'

[trekkor]

For the life of me, i cannot figure out how this statement is in any way relevant to the discussion...

Tazers aren't a very common cause of death.

That was it. No sides taken.

Carry on...


KT

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by trekkor

Tazers aren't a very common cause of death.

That was it. No sides taken.

Carry on...


KT

Actually, i posted the statistics in PARF some time ago. Hundreds of Americans have been killed by Tazers.

Not significant, unless you're one of them. :-/

[trekkor]

Hundreds of Americans have been killed by Tazers.

Per year?


KT