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Oil change for the truck tonight. Not many miles but it has been half a year and some short trips in the dead of winter so out with the old moisture contaminated stuff and in with the new. Not sure if I should swap the winter tires off yet. If I do it will snow an unholy amount. If I leave them on it will be in the upper 50s which is hard on the tires. I think I will let the tires take the heat. Dad needs it to haul his bike in for a cam chain replacement.

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Never had a vehicle with separate tires for summer and winter. Had them for street and track, but not summer and winter.
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Back when I first got the El Camino it still had the peg leg, open differential. It was horrible in any snow. I bought two used wheels from a salvage yard, and some new snow tires. It made a huge difference in the one snow we had. Then we went for several years, and no snow at all. I called the snow tires my anti-snow tires. I dutifully changed them every year until they were down to the wear bars. I told all my co-workers I was taking up a collection to buy more snow tires. No one was willing to donate any money towards them. I had put in a limited slip or "positraction" rear end by then. I have not used snow tires since. No real need around here.
Right after I had the snow tires unmounted from the wheels is snowed. I told all my co-workers to pony up, and I will get new snow repellent tires. No one wanted to pay up. So all of them had to drive through the several snows we had. I warned them.
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We have at least one with dedicated winter tires. They work so much better than all seasons.

I should get some for the Cobra and go practice winter rally driving! Wouldn't be terrible cold with a full face helmet and ski gloves. No wipers might be an issue. I suppose I would have to put them back on.
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in high school I had a 79 Camaro that I swear on snow you could put it in drive and let off the brake and get out and walk around the car. It was going nowhere. I had to put studs on the rear and sand in the trunk.
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The limited slip rear end with no traction control or ABS is still tricky to drive in slick conditions. I can only accelerate when going straight ahead. The tail will come around real fast if I give it too much gas. In a turn, I can only stay at the same speed at best. From a stop, turning right like at a stop sign is tricky. It has to de done slowly and carefully. Just a tiny bit of gas will cause a 180 or 360 spin.
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I don't remember if the Camaro had limited slip or not. I did have one time that I was coming up to a stop sign at a slow rate of speed on snow. It was not going to stop or turn left, the direction I needed to go so we went right and found a place to turn around.
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One winter had a front wheel drive Audi. It got around great on regular tires except this one time. Slid slowly down a hill and thru a busy intersection. Granted that was not snow it was ice.

The only vehicle I had any problems with was the 90 928 GT. If it was slick it was impossible to keep it from trying to swap ends anytime you put ANY power to the rear even with limited slip. Tried snow tires and it did NOT hardly any better. Just too much low end torque. Decided it was not a vehicle for ice and snow. Don't have that problem with the GTS, but it has PSD rear end where the differential is controlled by computer that uses steering input, tires slip, and accelerometers to let which tire slips how much. Don't drive it when slick. Not because it can't get around, but because don't want some idiot slamming into it.
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My RDX is that way it has what they call Super Handling All Wheel drive or SHAW. On snow and ice you can bring up a display that shows the amount of power going to each wheel at any given time. It is always moving to keep the car in a straight line.
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The old Rover the ABS worked good UNTIL you went slow. Then the brakes would lock up the front tires and the rears would spin. Found I had to add a little ebrake to keep the rear end in check.
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Living in LA, and having quit skiing in grad school, I run summer tires year round on my cars. No winter tires. No "all-season" crap. Summer tires are all-season tires here.
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Yea, my El Camino has all season tires. I do drive it in all conditions, and they are 15 inch wheels. No much available in performance tires in the size I need. In fact besides Mickey Thompson tires I pretty much get the BF Goodrich tires as my only choice.

My 911 has summer tires. They did OK in the 16 degrees in Arkansas on our trip to Porsche Palooza.
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All season here cause we get all of them. Rain, snow, hail, ice.
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I was very impressed how much traction my summer performance tires have in the rain. I have no intention of ever trying them in ice or snow. Ain't gonna happen. I have had some small hail on road trips. Lots of rain on the road trips.
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We have the MFG Comp-2 A/S on the car. They do great in the rain.

Richard, the winter tires now are an order of magnitude better than the old snow tires.

When we first moved back I was approaching a stop where I had to turn right with 3 season tires. It was not stopping so a little Scandinavian flick and some judicious throttle application and I was dirt tracking the corner. Was pretty drama free other than the whole you aint stopping here part.
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Living in LA, and having quit skiing in grad school, I run summer tires year round on my cars. No winter tires. No "all-season" crap. Summer tires are all-season tires here.
I’m going to replace the old tires on the 280Z with summer tires, and run them year round.
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The Pirelli Scorpion Zeros are great on my Cayenne Turbo.
The GTS gots Michelin PilotSport A/S3+, Only 2 seconds slower autocrossing, are cheaper, lots higher tread wear, and handle wet and snow better than summer. Besides I can't autocross anymore anyway.
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The first set of tires I ever bought we for my 36 HP 1960 VW bug. With a 0-60 time of close to 45 seconds, and a top speed of 70 on flat ground and no headwind I did not need radials. They were recaps. Set of 4, mounted and balanced was about $25. For all four.

On my 73 Super bug is was dang near race car fast with a massive 60 HP. It came with bias ply tires, but I swapped them out for Michelin ZX radials. The 914 came with Semperit tires that were terrible. I replaced them with Michelin XWX tires. The hot tire for the time.

Tires are a just orders of magnitude better than tires that original radials. The price has gone up as much as the quality. I used to get set of tires for the Elky for $240 for 4 tires, mounted, balance, and tax. My last single tire was over $200 for just one tire ruined by a screw in the sidewall.
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I had a Mitsub 3000 GTVR4 for a bit. When I had it there were only two mfgr for tires. Goodyear and Michelin. Both were over $300 each, I got rid of it before the thing needed tires.
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I’m going to replace the old tires on the 280Z with summer tires, and run them year round.
Well you sunny SoCal guys (especially you perpetual Saturday guys!) can keep your sunny 364 days a year.

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