I need one! 2010 911 SC - Page 11

Porsche-O-Phile · Porsche-O-Phile's Garage

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Originally Posted by Schumi

That's not the story of the 968 turbo.... the real story is Porsche only made 15 of them, then stopped- they were faster than any 911 at the time and that wouldn't fly.

The entire series of cars was getting tired by then too- if they had produced a 3L turbo 4 car in say, 1985 - it could have been the real deal. But then again they wouldn't do that as it would be potentially faster than a 930 for much less money.

The 951/968 combination has nearly endless power and handling limits for the right price.

Completely true. In fact this is the reason the stock boost level on the 951 and 951 turbo "S" was limited. They simply couldn't have it out-performing the 911s for marketing reasons. However, it didn't take long for people to figure out that they could EASILY modify the base 951 to run higher boost levels and the next thing you know, 951s were walking on 911s on tracks the world over.

The 944/951/968 line is far more robust than most people think. As far as "bang for the buck", very, very little can beat a modded 951. For the price of a modern Z06 (that's 20+ years newer), you can take a 951 and have it producing well north of 500hp/tq, with an astonishing suspension setup, great brakes, etc. that will eat the Z06 seven days a week. AND it's a Porsche.

The 968 Turbo was definitely one of the best cars Porsche ever made. Fiendishly fast, but also obnoxiously expensive. And by the time it was released, the 944 line was starting to look "old" (one of the reasons the base 968 models didn't sell better is that they were too much like the 924/944, in fact Porsche marketed them as a car that was "mostly new", which probably didn't help). I'd LOVE to see a stock 968 turbo against a modern Z06 Corvette. I dare say the 968 turbo would probably win. In adjusted-for-inflation dollars, the price advantage would have to go to the Corvette though.

Honestly, if I could have a 1980s-930 or another 1980s 951 to play with, I'd gladly get another 951. I currently have two spare 944 engines in my garage including one that's being built up into a 3.0L turbo (same as the 968 turbo, with better internals and higher boost level). This eventually will find its way into my 944 along with upgraded suspension and other parts - though not a "cheap" project, it certainly is FAR less than a modern car costs, and I guarantee it will spank 99.9% of them any day of the week, for far less cost. But I also guarantee that it'll get mistaken for an RX7 or something else by a lot of people (I used to get comments on my "nice RX7" all the time in my 951).

Don't disrespect the water pumpers (including the 928s). They're ALL pretty good platforms. However, for iconic and timeless looks as well as legendary Porsche performance, the good old 911 is impossible to beat.

onewhippedpuppy · 09-06-2009, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

The 944/951/968 line is far more robust than most people think. As far as "bang for the buck", very, very little can beat a modded 951. For the price of a modern Z06 (that's 20+ years newer), you can take a 951 and have it producing well north of 500hp/tq, with an astonishing suspension setup, great brakes, etc. that will eat the Z06 seven days a week. AND it's a Porsche.

I'd maintain that the 951 is the best deal going on a sports car. I'd seen many decent drivers for $5k, with nearly perfect cars going for under $10k. With a few thousand in engine and suspension you can embarrass most anything, short of a modern exotic. I'd love to have another someday, with an adequate budget to properly sort it.

m21sniper · 09-06-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by island911

Geez, enough about the 928 Pacer already.

OK Mr. "I wanted a Toureg but wasn't happy unless i paid 2x as much for it" boy.

m21sniper · 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by turbocarrera

THOSE are the 911's i love. If i was ever to buy a 911....it would be one of those.

It still has obvious VW Beetle styling cues though. They're unmistakable.

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Reeves Callaway offered a (928 turbo) kit, a friend use to have one..

Herr Kuhn had one.

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Originally Posted by serge944

I really like the SC!

PS The 928 really sucks.

To each their own.

I sure as hell like mine...

Schumi · 09-06-2009, 10:46 AM

God Sniper... you gotta come west sometime so we can have some beers together. Seriously.

island911 · 09-06-2009, 10:58 AM

Well snipe, great job. The average person, looking at your 928, wouldn't even think that it has a flux-capacitor.

m21sniper · 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Schumi

God Sniper... you gotta come west sometime so we can have some beers together. Seriously.

I was out in St. Louie about 6 years ago i guess. I'm sure i'll get out that way again, and if i do i'll definitely look you up. Might be not too far in the future either, there is a hot young 20 something chick that dwells out your way that i would not mind getting to know better....

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Originally Posted by island911

Well snipe, great job. The average person, looking at your 928, wouldn't even think that it has a flux-capacitor.

It's well hidden behind the calibrated widget generator.

xlr8 · 09-06-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper

I was out in St. Louie about 6 years ago i guess. I'm sure i'll get out that way again, and if i do i'll definitely look you up. Might be not too far in the future either, there is a hot young 20 something chick that dwells out your way that i would not mind getting to know better....

Oh no, not another ho...

m21sniper · 09-06-2009, 08:36 PM

Well hopefully she would turn out to have the class and grace of a fine european princess, of course.

Geronimo '74 · 09-06-2009, 08:41 PM

European princesses are the biggest hos I know off. I didn't realise that was a bad thing...

m21sniper · 08:06 AM

Then let us really hope she is like a european princess.

Honestly, the girl seems nice. Her lines are definitely much fresher than the 911's too....hehe

pwd72s · 09-06-2009, 10:38 PM

Heck...that model is turned out in vast numbers by volunteer unskilled labor...

RWebb · RWebb's Garage

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Originally Posted by m21sniper

... Her lines are definitely much fresher than the 911's too....hehe

true

the thing to avoid is the giant flacid 928 style booty

m21sniper · 09:42 AM

I beg to differ.

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Originally Posted by pwd72s

Heck...that model is turned out in vast numbers by volunteer unskilled labor...

The 928 is the Kim Kardashian of Porsches. It's a wonderful thing, don't you think?

island911 · 09-07-2009, 08:38 AM

Geez snipe, don't you get tired or the same smooth curves of 20-somethings? ...the same old styling of the perfect waistline transitioning into a well-formed booty? Same old in-your-face highbeams. Sheesh, I would expect you would have gotten bored with that look by now and gone Cougar hunting. Maybe go for that scowling headlight look that is so common with the boomer gen.

TIC.

m21sniper · 09-07-2009, 09:39 AM

Cougars are an extremely important part of a well balanced diet, there is no doubt.

RWebb · RWebb's Garage

The 928 is the Queen Latifah of Porsches.

m21sniper · 09-07-2009, 11:23 AM

I love that fat ass, there's no denying it.

m21sniper · 09-07-2009, 11:24 AM

Of course some 911's have fat asses too...