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m21sniper 03-14-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 5236215)
Your dragon would take under an hour to go from computer to 30 printed shirts using decades old silkscreen techniques.

On a poly shirt, I could dye sub it in 2 minutes.

on any light colored shirt, I could use water-based direct to garment printing in 20 seconds.

From a printing technical perspective, there is nothing elaborate about your drawing. You could bring your sketch down to any local shop and have it done for $3.50 + cost of a shirt.

You cannot capture subtle shading with silk screening. Just look at your dragon: Opaque. (and it took 2 days to "get it right?" that's a 5 minute sketch) So a single color unshaded opaque outline takes you 2 days to get right...but you could get a elaborate multi shaded decal made for $3.50?

Come on mr. expert...

You'd have to either have a custom decal made, or get it airbrushed. $3.50 indeed. LOL.

Making T-shirts is such a demanding business that 16yo's do it every day on the boardwalk without adult supervision. LOL. Definitely something to be proud of!

BUT HONESTLY: I DO NOT WISH TO QUIBBLE OVER DOODLES AND T-SHIRTS. It's beneath me.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-14-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5236384)
You cannot capture subtle shading with silk screening. Just look at your dragon: Opaque. (and it took 2 days to "get it right?" that's a 5 minute sketch) Come on mr. expert...

You'd have to either have a custom decal made, or get it airbrushed. $3.50 indeed. LOL.

Making T-shirts is such a demanding business that 16yo's do it every day on the boardwalk without adult supervision. LOL. Definitely something to be proud of!

Bill, you clearly don't know anything about silk screen or the process involved. Silk screen captures very subtle shading easily. Both dye sublimation and direct to garment prints at 300 dpi, which is what magazines are printed at. From a technical perspective, printing your dragon is very easy, especially being one color. Why would you make an authoritative statement that is so easy to prove wrong? You have just proven that don't know anything about silk screen printing but you are passing yourself off as an expert. Why?

The shading on this GT40 was significantly more subtle than your dragon.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1268608178.jpg


The shading on the bats, ball, glove... were all much more subtle than your dragon. In person, you can see the detail of the wood grain on the bat...easily.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1268608286.jpg





With close-up, macro view pics, it would be even easier to see. Please don't make authoritative statements that are so easy to prove wrong. or do you enjoy getting smacked down time and again? or maybe you are performance art personified. I don't know, but spreading lies and false information based on ignorance is just not cool.

And I won't even go into 4 color process screen printing which prints photo-quality art.

GWN7 03-14-2010 05:15 PM

Somewhere around here I have a poster that was made with the 4 colour separation process Shaun mentioned. It was made using a fixed slide photo of a fountain at the Louvre in Paris. Printed on photo quality paper. If it was framed you would think it was painted.

wdfifteen 03-14-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 5236412)
Bill, you clearly don't know anything about silk screen or the process involved. Silk screen captures very subtle shading easily. Both dye sublimation and direct to garment prints at 300 dpi, which is what magazines are printed at.

If it prints at 300 dpi it prints at twice the resolution of a magazine. Most mags use a 130 line screen, good ones use 150 lines, REALLY good ones print at 175.

wdfifteen 03-14-2010 06:06 PM

Edited - personal attack removed. -Z-man.

m21sniper 03-14-2010 06:14 PM

I haven't done a silk screen since about 1986 in Junior High art class.

I am sure the technology has progressed, but it was not exactly rocket science.

Anyway, your dragon shirt is cool (but no more than an opaque solid filled outline). Some of your shirts are cool. Can we all sing Kum By Yah now?

m21sniper 03-14-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 5236662)
+1000. Shawn struck out on his own and became successful and Snipe kisses the azz of an employer - and Snipe tries to claim to me the better man. The people on message boards whining and making snide remarks like Snipe are usually women exercising their odd distaff form of aggression and jealousy. Time to suck it up Snipe. Put your message board balls back in their little bag and admit Shawn is the better man.

Erm, i was self employed for 8 years?

LOL, whatever, i see you doing the same thing now you accuse me of.

The term for that, of course, is....

Hypocrite.

DARISC 03-14-2010 06:23 PM

You must understand - sad and pathetic, but so obvious to the casual observer, this message board is the poor man's life. Consider that he defines himself, in his own mind, here and take what he posts with a grain of salt. :rolleyes:

Edited - quoted insult removed. -Z-man.

m21sniper 03-14-2010 06:33 PM

LOL, wow, to be so figured out by one of the resident trolls.

How many ignore lists are you on exactly? 20? More? :D

LOL....why dont you brag some more about the people you killed in Vietnam. Because you know, you're our hero.

Shaun gets a lot of negative comments from a lot of posters (I count 5 separate posters in this thread alone) because of previous performance. Of course wdfiftoon has no idea about that. Still doesn't stop him from running the mouth out of ignorance. :)

DARISC 03-14-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5236704)
LOL, wow, to be so figured out....

Figured out? LOL, wow, you're anything but complicated.

Ding, ding, ding.

m21sniper 03-14-2010 06:40 PM

LOL, and you're anything but a Vietnam combat vet. :)

I bet next to dipso you are on more ignore lists than anyone on this forum.

DARISC 03-14-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5236704)
LOL....why dont you brag some more about the people you killed in Vietnam...

Care to back up the bullshyte coming out of your mouth by citing where I ever said I killed anybody in Viet Nam - or anyplace else?

Nasty little low-life tactic you're employing here, making stuff like that up, no? Indicates poor character.

Ding, ding, ding.

m21sniper 03-14-2010 06:53 PM

You've babbled several times (i've seen you do it at least twice) in PARF about having killed people in Vietnam. Anyone interested enough to do a forum search is more than welcome. I believe your quote was, "Ever killed anyone? Because i have...."

But sorry, i'm all out of troll food.

(Notice how i don't quote you so the tens of pelicans that have you on ignore don't have to read your words. :))

Just how did you get on sooo many ignore lists anyway troll boy? Anyway, feeding time is over.

DARISC 03-14-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 5236739)
You've babbled several times in PARF about having killed people in Vietnam.

Edited - attack removed. -Z-man.

Make a claim then put up or admit you're wrong and shut up - that's what a man does.

snbush67 03-14-2010 07:48 PM

Forum Fight !!!!!

The crowd chants "Fight, fight, fight, fight, etc."

snbush67 03-14-2010 07:49 PM

I'll be right back dont post anything, I'm getting beer and popcorn.

snbush67 03-14-2010 07:50 PM

OK, Im back.....did I miss anything...OK back to fighting.

DING!

snbush67 03-14-2010 08:03 PM

....does anyone know how the term bald face liar originated?

fintstone 03-14-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by snbush67 (Post 5236843)
....does anyone know how the term bald face liar originated?

If you look it up in the encyclopedia, there is a picture of Mr. Obama next to it...with subparagraphs featuring Pelosi and Reed.

911Rob 03-14-2010 08:19 PM

OMG! Must be almost Spring? Too many cabin fever keyboard warriors fwiw.

I just read the posts I left behind at about page 6 or so, ha, ha; incredible coverage and great for a laugh. So a few things,

1. I agree with speeder's posts, the guy has it knocked down to a T and once again proves my theory about taking advise from those that DO and have DONE rather than those that just pose to do and have never done. Thanks Denis, if we lived closer we'd be peeps bud.

2. My momma taught me right; if you're gonna flog your chocolate bar in front of your friends, then you'd better have enough to share with everyone. Shaun should really be giving us ALL free T-shirts, this imo would redeem his actions.

As for the keyboard warriors, don't say something on BBS that you wouldn't say to the persons face, and I can guarantee you that most people would never have the guts to say something to my face :) There's one particular poser I have in mind for this comment, I'm Irish and I'm waiting to give 'em the chance one day. Hee Hee.


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