Random Warbirds

[Geronimo '74]

Awesome pictures, thanks for sharing!!!

[Evans, Marv]

What a treasure trove! Great to see the F-86 and Mig-15 together.

[tcar]

Originally Posted by Don Plumley

Great Pics! Thanks so much for sharing.

Love the Sabre Jet and Mustang - always my favorites. Love old warbirds...

Actually, North American started with their Mustang when they designed the Sabre. Modified the fuselege but the first test flights, the Sabre had Mustang wings and tail.

Also, the first Navy version of the Sabre was the Fury, which also had Mustang wings, tail, canopy, etc. They were worried about using the swept wings and being able to land slow enought to land on a carrier.

Meanwhile they were working on the swept wings using info from the early German WWII jets (ME-262) and the Sabre ended up with swept wings.

I've also read that the MiG was a superior plane that did not have pilots equivalent to ours (except for some of the Russian pilots).

[tcar]

Originally Posted by pavulon

This vid shows an FW190 climbing out like a stabbed rat!!

Very, very cool.

The FW-190 had a BMW radial engine (hence the BMW logo, a graphic spinning propeller).

The one in this video almost sounds like one of the later 190's with the Daimler-Benz inline watercooled engine, though. Maybe? Not sure, sounds more like a Mustang (inline) than a Corsair (radial).

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by tcar

Very, very cool.

The FW-190 had a BMW radial engine (hence the BMW logo, a graphic spinning propeller).

The one in this video almost sounds like one of the later 190's with the Daimler-Benz inline watercooled engine, though. Maybe? Not sure, sounds more like a Mustang (inline) than a Corsair (radial).

The FW-190 had both inline and radial engines on their airframe. The original versions had twin row radial engines but the last models (Dora's and TA's) had the inline Jumo watercooled engines.

Old friend of mine Heinz Orlowski flew "White 1" a Focke Wulf FW 190 F8 that was shot down in Norway late in the war. Unfortunately he passed away last fall in Berlin.

More info here: Focke-Wulf FW 190 - White 1

It was simply one of the best fighters of WW2.

[Hawkeye's-911T]

Hey David

Another "Thanks for the cool photos". A visit to the Planes of Fame Museum & the airshow has just been added to my 'bucket list'

Thanks again & Cheers
JB

[daepp]

My pleasure. I would highly recommend visiting the Planes of Fame museum - it is second to none!

[Les Paul]

Local Mustang. It is for sale if anyone is interested. A guy that has snagged a ride in it told me the the pilot says it takes 3K to operate if for an hour.

[david914]

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe

F-86 Sabre... used against the MiG-15 in Korea... a beautiful design, IMO.

I remember checking a book entitled "Sabre Jet Ace" out of the school library in the 5th or 6th grade and having a ball reading it.

F-86 Sabre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Too funny. That book was one of my favorites! I read it several times when I was that age.

[Joeaksa]

Or go to Pima Air Museum in Tucson. One of the biggest and best museum's for airplanes in the world.

Sorry, shameless plug for Arizona but there is no other place in the world like it. Also has the ONLY Minuteman missle silo in the world that is restored like it was when they were used around the country.

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by david914

Too funny. That book was one of my favorites! I read it several times when I was that age.

Heh heh... check this out:

Joseph C. McConnell

Joseph Christopher McConnell, Jr. (30 January 1922 - 25 August 1954) was the top American ace during the Korean War. A native of Dover, New Hampshire, Captain McConnell shot down 16 MiG-15s while flying F-86 Sabres with the U.S. Air Force. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross and the Silver Star for combat heroism. McConnell was the first American triple jet-on-jet fighter ace and is still the top-scoring American jet ace.

The 1955 film The McConnell Story, starring Alan Ladd and June Allyson, chronicles his life story. The book Sabre Jet Ace (1961) by Charles Ira Coombs chronicled his experiences as a fighter pilot in Korea in a fictionalized biography for young readers.

I went to half.com to see if there were any for sale there... nada. Then to Amazon and there were two used copies... one going for $205 and one for $500.

[daepp]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Or go to Pima Air Museum in Tucson. One of the biggest and best museum's for airplanes in the world.

Sorry, shameless plug for Arizona but there is no other place in the world like it. Also has the ONLY Minuteman missle silo in the world that is restored like it was when they were used around the country.

To be perfectly honest:
a) I have not been to many other air museums than Planes of Fame so I cannot disagree and
b) right now, in light of current politics, I would send tourists to AZ first anyways (rather than our screwed up state).

[Joeaksa]

Dave,

Thanks and Pima has a lot of planes that no one else has as its next door to the DM Air Force Base where all the US Air Force planes are mothballed. Once out of mothballing they are either scrapped, sold or given to Pima.

Planes of Fame is nice in that many of them still fly, which Pima does not do.

Appreciate the help on the AZ thing!

Joe

[pavulon]

These boys are working on cornering the cool market:

Flugwerk GmbH



The duxford 190 is a radial shown here flying with Me109 running an inverted V(I think):

[Zeke]

I know Chino is home to a lot of historic aircraft, but this was an air show, right? How often? I wanna be at the next one.

The 356 club drives out there once a month. I need to tag along.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by pavulon

These boys are working on cornering the cool market:

Did you see where they now have 20 FW-190's either in the air or in the build process?

They are now moving on to build brand new P-51's!

Interesting group. I knew them years ago when they just started but they really have progressed.

[afterburn 549]

HMMMM. Seems unjust the Huey was left out

[KNS]

Milt,

Chino has their big air show every May. I remember going a few times when I was a kid, I would think it is even better now.

Cool pics! Love the P-38 and the Spit, especially.

On Memorial Day, Paul Allen's Warbirds collection will be flying their P-47, another favorite of mine, out of Paine Filed in Everett WA.

[widgeon13]

Originally Posted by Les Paul

Local Mustang. It is for sale if anyone is interested. A guy that has snagged a ride in it told me the the pilot says it takes 3K to operate if for an hour.

Great airplane.

I had the opportunity to have dinner last night with a WWII P-51 pilot with approx 700+ hours in the aircraft. He served with Robin Olds for a period of time over in England. Just an absolutely enlightening experience. He said it was the best aircraft he had ever flown.