With All This Talk About Bears...

[Jeff Higgins]

Sometimes they win.

[crustychief]

nice!

[pwd72s]

Buffalo isn't going to live much longer...

[sammyg2]

Wow, zombie buffalo!

[slakjaw]

dude, use ur horns

[pete3799]

Just his luck.......he's in a passing zone.

[GWN7]

That's a big bear

[M.D. Holloway]

thats gonna be a f***'d up Buff!

[Gooch1971]

As for the photographer, he doesn't have to outrun the bear but he had better outrun the buffalo.

[Craig]

I gotta give kudos to the buffalo for being that tore up, and still that far ahead of the bear chasing him.
As someone said though, he isn't long for this world.

Craig

[ODDJOB UNO]

now if THAT BEAR was coming at you what would you do?


1) be like r2d2esq and wave the french national flag(white) at him?

2) use bear spray?

3) pull yer 9 or .45 and hope to god he drops?

4) POO yerself and roll over and play dead

5) shake yer lil bells and scare him off?

6) run like a MOFO and curse the years of eating ding dongs and chimichangas?

7) stand yer ground and yell "HEY BEAR!"

8) call 911?

9) climb a tree?

10) make the CORRECT SHOT PLACEMENT?????????? w/a .357(min),.44 mag(better), .454 (better-er), .460(me likey), .500 pistole(insane).



please look up the very scientific chart "where to shoot a bear" and you will be AMAZED at how small of a window of opportunity you have to hit his vitals and drop him before he tears you a new ARSE!



gives a 360 degree chart on shot placement from every angle and some of the angles are just flat poor % of dropping them before they nail ya.


and this angle, a frontal (4) feet on the ground charge has to be about the worst chance of getting off effective shots.



i stare at my chart every damn time i go into bear country and study it for memory.

[vash]

nature is a beotch!! if i was the buff..i would rather take a bullet from a hunter.

[ODDJOB UNO]

i just looked up the 8th largest boone and crockett black bear which i think is airy-zoneys biggest at 550# . it was nailed (1) time with a .300 win mag and kept going. hunter saw him move and planted (1) more .300 into him. went into riparian area(cover) and was still alive when hunter came upon him. (1) more in the chest from the .300 and he was KILT!

this was in the dezerts not the woods!

[vash]

just so you know..i think that photo was taken with a VERY long lens. depth of field is very shallow.

[GH85Carrera]

Poteau girl, 17, becomes first female hunter to kill bear in Oklahoma | NewsOK.com

[Jeff Higgins]

Looking at the number of yellow hash marks and taking a rough guess on how long one is, it looks like Yogi can't be too far behind.

A good size griz will out run even a healthy bison. For that matter, they will out sprint a horse, at least for a little while. They are faster than they look.

[ODDJOB UNO]

if you were standing where the front hooves of the buff are count back about 7-8 centerstripes.


now calculate how fast that bear is going to be upon you.



and in that time period............................................ ...


1) you need to, really really bad, unhook gun strap

2) pull gun

3) aim gun

4) fire on single or double action

5) continue until empty

6) reload from a speed loader( no fumbling with rounds in your pocket here)

7) continue firing until threat over



and thats how those damn bears ROLL YOU OVER and make YOU into BEAR POO POO!



BECAUSE THEY CAN!


BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT!


BECAUSE THEY WILL!

[cbush]

[QUOTE=ODDJOB UNO;5641623]now if THAT BEAR was coming at you what would you do?

bells and pepper spray

[ODDJOB UNO]

to add to OUR arsenal of democracy and general personal well being..............


aside from making the very studied choice of a smith .460 for me or my sons use, he also has a marlin stainless XLR 45/70 24" barrel that i built for him.


me being me and being the "evil" no good for nuthing father, has hatched the wild ass scheme for xmas to buy him a dillon reloader and the 45/70 dies.


now since we have (1) 45/70, its lonely in the safe by itself w/nobody to talk to.



sooooooooooo.....................i am presently on the hunt also for a used marlin 1895 GS stainless which has 18.5" barrel and (4) rds in mag tube and (1) in pipe, or their other model which is also 18.5" barrel stainless also w/large lever loop and extended mag tube holding (6) in mag tube and (1) in pipe for a total of 7.


these are not shot often............trust me. and used they can be found in the $475 -575 range. new about 719-840 for the large lever long mag tube model.


the blue models were ported from about 1998 until 2000 something when marlin ceased ported models in their lineup probably for cost considerations.



i found last sunday a blue model 18.5" ported barrel in freeking mint cherry condition like NRA 99.5% for the measly sum of $519 bucks. damn near bought it. but alas i will hold out for some city slicker that gets his shoulder/cheek pounded into submission and sells his stainless model cheap.



a 405 gr remington round WILL put a severe hurt on that bear NOW!

[RPKESQ]

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO

now if THAT BEAR was coming at you what would you do?


1) be like r2d2esq and wave the french national flag(white) at him?

2) use bear spray?

3) pull yer 9 or .45 and hope to god he drops?

4) POO yerself and roll over and play dead

5) shake yer lil bells and scare him off?

6) run like a MOFO and curse the years of eating ding dongs and chimichangas?

7) stand yer ground and yell "HEY BEAR!"

8) call 911?

9) climb a tree?

10) make the CORRECT SHOT PLACEMENT?????????? w/a .357(min),.44 mag(better), .454 (better-er), .460(me likey), .500 pistole(insane).



please look up the very scientific chart "where to shoot a bear" and you will be AMAZED at how small of a window of opportunity you have to hit his vitals and drop him before he tears you a new ARSE!



gives a 360 degree chart on shot placement from every angle and some of the angles are just flat poor % of dropping them before they nail ya.


and this angle, a frontal (4) feet on the ground charge has to be about the worst chance of getting off effective shots.



i stare at my chart every damn time i go into bear country and study it for memory.

Keep staring. You need all the "study time" for sure.

Alaskan and Canadian Native people drop these and bigger bears all the time with pip-squeak rounds like the .32-40 Winchester, .38-55 Winchester, .25-35 Winchester, .30-30 Winchester, and .32 Winchester Special.

They seem to have very little problem doing this. The death and injury from bears is not very high and that is from a population that lives side by side with them.

Do you have any idea what the smallest caliber used in a frontal one shot kill on a charging Grizzly Bear was?

Making these animals into something they are not, is just boastful crowing. Your example of the multiple hit by a .300 mag is nothing more than poor shooting. Remember having a weapon and being able to use it efficently are two distinctly different issues.