Have we discussed this beautiful bully beatdown yet?

[notfarnow]

Everyone's praising the big kid...

What if the big kid was your son, and that pile driver left the smaller kid paralyzed, or dead? Would you be praising his restraint, even if he'd killed or maimed someone?

Whether or not a smack down was justified (it was, IMO), that could have ended tragically. I can barely even watch that video

When I was in elementary school, WWF wrestling was all the rage, and kids often wrestled on breaks. One kid got a pile-driver like that in the schoolyard, and ended up being hauled away by ambulance with a broken neck, didn't see him again till grade 7.

Seriously, I'd have been glad to see a solid punch in the gut, but WTF is with praising that kind of response?

[Rick Lee]

That body slam ensures that bully's bullying career is done forever. Sucks if he was permanently injured for it, but I'd rather a bully be permanently injured than the bullied. At that age kids know right from wrong. And it's pretty obvious the bully wasn't just trying this out for the first time on the big kid. He knew he could get away with it, which means it had happened before.

[KevinP73]

Originally Posted by notfarnow

Everyone's praising the big kid...

What if the big kid was your son, and that pile driver left the smaller kid paralyzed, or dead? Would you be praising his restraint, even if he'd killed or maimed someone?

Whether or not a smack down was justified (it was, IMO), that could have ended tragically. I can barely even watch that video

When I was in elementary school, WWF wrestling was all the rage, and kids often wrestled on breaks. One kid got a pile-driver like that in the schoolyard, and ended up being hauled away by ambulance with a broken neck, didn't see him again till grade 7.

Seriously, I'd have been glad to see a solid punch in the gut, but WTF is with praising that kind of response?

True but with the ending being not the worst case scenerio you describe I think the kid got what he deserved. And maybe, just maybe he learned a valuable lesson about bullying others before he paralized or accidentally killed some other kid/victim.

[notfarnow]

Sure, the bully is an ********* who deserves to be hurt, I am on board with that 100%.

But if your young son had to live with breaking a kid's neck, how would that sit with you?

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by notfarnow

Everyone's praising the big kid...

What if the big kid was your son, and that pile driver left the smaller kid paralyzed, or dead? Would you be praising his restraint, even if he'd killed or maimed someone?

Whether or not a smack down was justified (it was, IMO), that could have ended tragically. I can barely even watch that video

When I was in elementary school, WWF wrestling was all the rage, and kids often wrestled on breaks. One kid got a pile-driver like that in the schoolyard, and ended up being hauled away by ambulance with a broken neck, didn't see him again till grade 7.

Seriously, I'd have been glad to see a solid punch in the gut, but WTF is with praising that kind of response?

That's what I was thinking too...big kid is lucky he didn't break the little punk's neck with a pile drive like that.

[KevinP73]

Originally Posted by notfarnow

Sure, the bully is an ********* who deserves to be hurt, I am on board with that 100%.

But if your young son had to live with breaking a kid's neck, how would that sit with you?

As opposed to my kid being the one with the broken neck. I'm just fine with it.

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by KevinP73

True but with the ending being not the worst case scenerio you describe I think the kid got what he deserved. And maybe, just maybe he learned a valuable lesson about bullying others before he paralized or accidentally killed some other kid/victim.

I'm sure the bully learned a lesson.

But holy fk, some of you have sons (and daughters) who are bullies and you don't even know it. Sometimes good kids act badly in the wrong circumstances.

A pile-driver just strikes me as an extreme, potentially lethal response.

Why not stab him in the gut with a pencil? Would that be OK, provided the kid lived and only needed a couple stitches?

[Arizona 911]

My daughter is in 2nd grade. She had a problem with a male classmate who was giving her trouble. The teacher wouldn't really do anything about it, so I showed my daughter a few things and gave her my permission to do what she needed to do to stop this kid. I told her not to worry about the teacher. I will take care of it. Last week, she got a hold of this kid and taught him a lesson. He doesn't bother her anymore.

[Rikao4]

what if the 2 girls laughing when it starts had spoken up..
what if the girl who stops the other guy had decided not too..
so if one has kids..
show them the vid..and explain the pro & cons of all involved..

Rika

[id10t]

Originally Posted by notfarnow

I'm sure the bully learned a lesson.

But holy fk, some of you have sons (and daughters) who are bullies and you don't even know it. Sometimes good kids act badly in the wrong circumstances.

A pile-driver just strikes me as an extreme, potentially lethal response.

Why not stab him in the gut with a pencil? Would that be OK, provided the kid lived and only needed a couple stitches?

Well, in a lot of states, if Adult A walks up to Adult B, insults him, punches him in the face, punches him some more, Adult B would be perfectly justified in drawing a pistol and shooting Adult A.

Now these are kids, so bringing a weapon into the situation isn't appropriate, but otherwise I'm pretty OK with it...

My son? He's huge for his age. In kindergarten Andrew was the size of his sisters class mates... and she was in 4th grade. Andrew has been taught to not start fights and if one comes to him to avoid it if at all possible. But if unavoidable, kick ass and take names later.

[johnco]

my first year in high school I was 5'6 and 85 lbs. all my friends got the usual freshman bullying by all the jocks. everyone of them but me.. the biggest guy in school was the brother of a friend of mine. his brother told him the reason no one picked on me was because I had "crazy eyes". they seemed to think that if they messed with me, I might burn down their house or something. during that time of my life... that might have been on my to-do list

[Burnin' oil]

Swift and decisive response.

[masraum]

Some similar thoughts crossed my mind. "the kid could have had his neck or back broken or had his head smashed in. He could have died.". Fortunately, that didn't happen. Still, even if the big kid had just punched him, he could have fallen back, hit his head and died. An outcome like that would have really sucked.

It was a body slam (body flat to the ground) not a pile driver (head first). A pile driver would have been much more dangerous.

I've never been a fighter. Fortunately, i was tall, so i didnt get screwed with as bad as some smaller kids. I was hit once in HS. It was in the nose. My eyes watered so bad that I couldn't see a thing. The other kid who was a bully specifically to me. (pe coach told my parents he wished I'd have decked the kid). He begged me to cover for him because he'd get expelled. I did and he never screwed with me again. I wish I'd have kicked his ass instead, but what's done is done.

I'm pretty happy with the outcome of the video. I think the big kids life will be changed for the better after this event. I suspect he gets more respect and has more self confidence now.

[Rick Lee]

When a similar thing happened on my school bus in 7th grade, the small kid, who always picked on the big kid got b!tch slapped and shaken like a rag doll. The big kid was special ed., but I don't really understand why. He was pretty normal, just a bit of a loudmouth and he sometimes dished it out himself. I didn't like him much, but he was harmless and left me alone. But I happened to be there the day he had had enough from the little guy. I will never forget it. It was like watching Sonny in A Bronx Tale when he told that almost dead biker, "Look at me. Remember me. I'm the one who did this to you." Travis never bothered Mike again after that day.

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by notfarnow

Everyone's praising the big kid...

What if the big kid was your son, and that pile driver left the smaller kid paralyzed, or dead? Would you be praising his restraint, even if he'd killed or maimed someone?

Whether or not a smack down was justified (it was, IMO), that could have ended tragically. I can barely even watch that video

When I was in elementary school, WWF wrestling was all the rage, and kids often wrestled on breaks. One kid got a pile-driver like that in the schoolyard, and ended up being hauled away by ambulance with a broken neck, didn't see him again till grade 7.

Seriously, I'd have been glad to see a solid punch in the gut, but WTF is with praising that kind of response?

Speaking from experience, my elementary school was in a rough area of town, my name is Byron my initials are an underwear, I was a runt with very think glasses, school integration had just started. If you think that I wasn't teased & bullied, you are on crack, but my Father, who grew up depression era Brooklyn, lied about his age & joined the Navy during W.W.II and after the war he went to work in the Ship Yards, worked his entire adult life for the National Maritime Union (lost a kidney in a bar fight too) being short and Irish, he didn't take any crap. Needless to say, he taught me early on how to defend myself, and one of the 1st things he taught me was to hurt anyone who attacked me and hurt them bad, first rule in Dock/Union Strong Arm/Bar room brawlling is to hurt the attacker so they CAN'T come back. Fortunately for me, most of the time, just standing my ground was enough to earn the respect, and have found out most of the time, that was all it took, a social test, and if you passed, didn't matter if you won or not, 9 out of 10 times (unless it was like what Dennis went though) you even became friends. And who knows, that bully might have gone on to a life of crime had the Big Boy not put him in his place, and I'm sure the bully wasn't worried about what happened to the other kid..

And yes, it would suck to have to live with permanently injuring someone. I can't imagine how anyone who's caused an accident where someone else is killed or permanently injured goes on with life.

What if the big kid had asthma and had an attack that killed him or a weak heart?? I stand by what my father taught me.

[lisa_spyder]

This is all over the net now...the one thing I have a problem with is that both these kids have to live with that.

That little nasty piece of works and his mates are probably enjoying the notoriety (even if he is nursing a broken ankle)...the bigger boy I think would be not so happy.

What happened to the days when this stuff happened without a phone being whipped out to film it? Society is sick...

FWIW I am a mother of 2 kids who have been bullied. For Tom it happened in year 5. I have never felt so damned helpless and enraged. The problem was that the group of kids doing the bullying (both verbal and physical) were all fine by themselves with Tom...but put them in a pack and the situation was very, very different. We were very fortunate that once Tom had the courage to tell us what was going on, the school backed him 110%. There was no doubt in their mind that he was telling the truth and they handled it as best they could within the constrains of policy. And FWIW Mike and I made sure that Tom knew how to defend himself...I told him to make sure when the pack took him down on the football field and then stuck the boots in to make sure he got in a few well marked kicks and blows himself...NOT to just lie there and let them pummel him anymore. These kids were BREAKING him...emotionally and physically...all I wanted to do was to handle it the 'old way'...pick these boys up by the scuffs of their necks and take them round the back of the bike shed for the lesson they deserved (yes Mums want to do that too; it's not just a bloke thing ). But instead we were lucky enough to be able to put our faith in the school principal and his abilities...that changed Tom...his very demeanour changed when he knew that the school hierachy supported him. But I tell you; now he wouldn't even give anyone a second chance to have a go at him...I would be very worried for anyone who would decide to take him on...and that's fine by me.

Billy OTOH was not supported by the school hierachy as that school has a policy that the victim needs to produce witnesses and evidence to support their case...the fellon is presumed innocent and the victim has to prove otherwise . Needless to say Billy is no longer at that school...and I ensured that the Principal, Head of Campus and the school board knew why.

NO CHILD NEEDS TO BE A VICTIM. NO CHILD SHOULD EVER BE A VICTIM.

I think that the boy in this video would have been suffering from bullying for a long time...I think his response was measured and restrained. I think it shows a level of maturity that his attackers don't have (don't forget the other kids egging the little bully on - they are just as guilty). I understand that the school would have had to be seen to punish him in some way as they can't support physical violence. But I also think he would have been suspended in order to take him out of the situation for a while in the hope that whole thing would cool down some and he would not be further victimised. Sadly, because of this vid going viral that may not be the case.

We have current situation with a boy here who is well known to the police - at 14 he has already been to court for several offences and he is still out on the street. His father is struggling to control him; even with the help of the cops here. His is well known to all the kids and they are (suitably) terrified of him. He had a go at Billy last week when Billy was walking to school. Billy saw the punch coming and ducked it. That afternoon, Billy went over the road to our neighbour who is a cop and told him...cop is dealing with it and has given Billy a few strategies to work with. Problem is that the cops really can't touch him...other than go through the judicial system. So here we go again...except that if I catch this little ***** up to no good I will react. He is a tough little bugger who is at war with the world and seems to go seeking trouble...that is one screwed up little soul already...but my instinct is to protect my own...at any cost.

[M.D. Holloway]

That kid is lucky he didn't get a broken leg or worse. When it first started I assummed that the big kid was the bully - thats how it is 9/10 times. The little guy has some moxy going after big boy.

[rnln]

it's better for that little punk to get beat up today than get shot later on.

[Rikao4]

pretty sure the big boy was getting it from many others..
daily..
he was still trying to get away after the in face blow..
besides tiny had back-up waiting in the wings..

Rika

[GH85Carrera]

The bully learned there are sometimes consequences for your actions beyond what you first envisioned. I hope he understands that for the rest of his life. I still ZERO sympathy for the little punk.