First, the rules Originally posted 07-03-2001:
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1. No flaming: debates are ok, but responding to threads just to incite or start an argument or conflict is not permitted. Personal attacks, if hostile in nature, are not allowed.

2. No pointless threads or excessive posting allowed: Yes, this is an off topic forum, but let's keep the subject matter of an intelligent nature. If you're bored, play a game on your playstation or better yet, wash your car! Posting responses to increase your 'number of posts' is also not allowed.

Weren't you ever a pompous and arrogant young nit who thought having an old entry level P Car made you wayyy cool ????

I was and I don't regret it for a minute. (white 1975 1.8 914 POS, and then a BEAUTIFUL TO ME silver 1974 2.0 914 while I was in college)

That 2.0 914 carried me and all of my earthly possessions to California in 1990. I was proud of that car (I rebuilt the motor in my parent's basement one winter) and thought that it was the greatest car ever and that I was the coolest guy ever because I had the good sense to own it and drive it.

Older Porsche (and Ferrari) guys ENCOURAGED my pompous/arrogant OLD ENTRY LEVEL P Car behavior and guess what? I have become a life-long Porsche/Ferrari driving enthusiast because of that encouragement. The Pompousness/Arrogance has rescinded a bit but I'm still basically the same guy. (I'm 46 years old now).

Just because you are old, doesn't give you a pass to be an A $$ hole to the younger guys. This is a Porsche Forum. Not a Mustang Forum. I love Ferrari's and haven't bought a Porsche in several years. But you don't see me on here spouting off about how cool an 8 cylinder Ferrari sounds when it is heating up in your garage on a cold morning. (It does, but I don't)

Further, other than their "stats", newer Mustangs have no quantifiable redeeming value whatsoever. 50k for ANY MUSTANG made during the last 40 years is laughable.

As far as I'm concerned, Mustangs are probably reliable transportation, but not much else.

PWD, I wouldn't trade you even, your Mustang for my daily driver 2008 Nissan Titan Crew Cab.

Paul, likes posting blatant lies and half truths just to stir the pot.....

Claiming it held 1.02 on street tires, and then finding out it was on Pirelli Rcomps? C'mon, he knew that....

For reference paul, my 944 will hold better than 1.02 on comp tires, honest truth.


Claiming the 5.0 is better than M3 b/c the mustang LOST to the M3? I don't care by how little, a win is a win....

Your right, in the garage I would tell him he a was a full of **** crotchety old fart, except those little stars wouldn't be there....

Until he puts up, he needs to shutup.... There have been plenty of 944 guys willing to take him up on his trash talk...

spot on.

Some people post about fords. . . some about how to afford an Apple computer.

....some are crotchety old bastards. ....some are emotional young twits, with their panties in a major twist.

Gotta love this board. :D

iLand, where do you fit in this demographic? Inquiring geezers want to know!

He's just a twit period.....

OH BS. you started it by attacking him and calling him a troll because he constantly posted how cool mustangs are.

I admit the mustang stuff gets old but you took it too far. He simply fired back after you pretended that a 944 was something special.

I will fully admit I did this time...

That's refreshing...Sammy comes through with the most level-headed, accurate post in the thread.

I beg to differ. JeremyD still takes that prize.....



Well, constantly posting how cool Mustangs are on a Porsche forum IS trolling....
Nothing wrong with calling him a troll then.... (I agree that personal attacks are not necessary)

I'm a crotchety old bastard in training. I have some decades to put in yet. ... tho I am a fast learner. ;)

I thought this was a BMW forum. . . .A Mercedes forum? . . .oh wait, this is the OT forum.

Hey now. . .if anyone is having her period, we all know who that is.

I think my point is clear enough. Paul is actively seeking to troll, targeting Porsche owners/enthusiasts in particular on a forum that is intended mainly for BMW and Porsche owners and enthusiasts. Be it in OT or not, that is besides the point.

I know what you mean. . .it's like going to a Starbucks and counting count 5-10 Macbooks.

Sheesh. . . what a bunch of mind-numbed clones. I mean they are the epitome of air-head chick boxes.


:D

Well, the fact that it is in OT makes it fine by me. I mean, c'mon, people here talk'n about shaving their pubes . . . is that a BMW or Porsche thang?

. . .or maybe you're saying this belongs under the Religion OT. (?)

FYI, the lateral g story is old news.

The Corvette ZR1 pulls 1.07 Gs on Michelin PS2s.
The Nissan GT-R pulls 1.04 Gs on Dunlop SP Sport 600s.
The Porsche Boxster pulls 1.01 Gs on the Pirelli P Zeros.

Only the Boxster is in the same price category as the Mustang. But in this case, the Mustang was on R-compound tires, so it's apples and oranges.

Chances are in an apples-to-apples comparison, the latest generation Camaro would outperform the latest generation Mustang. This despite a nearly 500 lb. weight disadvantage.

But all of this is academic. It's lap times or slalom times that tell the most about handling, and that's when mass and polar moment of inertia become most relevant. American "pony" cars are going to be quite a ways down the list on any such comparison chart.

Island,

For me this is the OT section of PelicanParts.com, a BMW and Porsche site.
I come here when not visiting the Porsche tech section, or Parts for sale section, I come here because I am a Porsche enthousiast and owner. If I was a Mustang owner I would not be on a Porsche forum.
I'm not saying that Paul is not welcome here, because he is. He's a former owner so he still has friends here, I presume. No problem for me.
But to come here and troll?? (Be honest, that is what he is doing) That is bad form.
Too bad Sid takes the bait so easily.

Sorry, G.... I have to vent on someone, Paul makes a nice target...

w/o Paul, who would you 'target' to satisfy your 'venting needs'?

I mean, you tell him to go away, and yet you encourage him like no one.