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What if I was a duck... really thats your argument. If this is a felony then every dead animal found on the road should be investigated for possible wrongful death.
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Ann Arbor man accused of running over ducklings faces felony charge
I wonder what the actual charge is.
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Most road kill animals are not killed deliberately.
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Most road kill animals are not killed deliberately.
Most is the key word then that means some are deliberate, oh the horror, the horror.
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I hope he does a little jailtime and gets a55raped by a guy named Donald.
i kinda don't think that punishment fits the crime. just sayin'.
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I wonder what the actual charge is.
Varies from state to state, been on the books in Michigan since 1931 as a felony.

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Dillon Robert Pearce, 19, of Ann Arbor was arraigned this afternoon at the Washtenaw County Jail on a charge of killing an animal.
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This is going to be a misdemeanor case, to elevate to felony you need a prior conviction of same. With a good lawyer , it may even fall under a hunting violation.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(4joefh2kylewsb45ogt4lhyg))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-50
11) This section does not prohibit the lawful killing or other use of an animal, including the following:

(a) Fishing.

(b) Hunting, trapping, or wildlife control regulated under the natural resources and environmental protection act, 1994 PA 451, MCL 324.101 to 324.90106.

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Some punishment and serious counseling is needed in this case. One shouldn't confuse the fact that he did it deliberately. It wasn't an accident. It reminds me a bit of the kid that was caught beheading and disemboweling neighbors cats in FLA. - if it was my kid... Thats a tough one...I won't tell you what I would have done if it was my animal...
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Some punishment and serious counseling is needed in this case. One shouldn't confuse the fact that he did it deliberately. It wasn't an accident. It reminds me a bit of the kid that was caught beheading and disemboweling neighbors cats in FLA. - if it was my kid... Thats a tough one...I won't tell you whatt I would have done if it was my animal...
Deliberate is not a fact. Its an opinion. Intent is going to be the issue. Seems they might have had a concern for the ducks wandering in a busy parking lot. Whats the lay out of these parking lot? You guys read three paragraphs of a news article and you are hoping he gets raped in prison.

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along the lines of the o'leary bit, it is kind of weird.

guy kills some cute ducklings and most of you think he should be tortured or do 4 years in prison.

but a harmless garden snake is going along its way in your yard, and most of you gleefully take a shovel to its head - and then come here to brag about your bravery.

or, people show videos of people blowing the heads off of squirrels with their high powered "spoons" and everyone here thinks it's hilarious.

strange.
As I recall very few here thought the squirrel video was hilarious. Very few.

Leary is a comedian and doesn't have to make sense. If I raise a cow and I want to kill it, it's my cow - screw Dennis Leary.

Snake in my yard? My snake, my yard - screw Dennis Leary.

Someone else's duck/snake on someone else's property and he kills it? Sorry, he is a criminal.

It does make a difference to me whether it's a duck or a snake. I'm the product of thousands of years of Judeo-Christian training. If a duck had bade Eve to eat of the tree of knowledge I might be rooting for the snake, but snakes have carried a connotation of evil for thousands of years and ducks are just annoying.
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As I recall very few here thought the squirrel video was hilarious. Very few.

Leary is a comedian and doesn't have to make sense. If I raise a cow and I want to kill it, it's my cow - screw Dennis Leary.

Snake in my yard? My snake, my yard - screw Dennis Leary.

Someone else's duck/snake on someone else's property and he kills it? Sorry, he is a criminal.

It does make a difference to me whether it's a duck or a snake. I'm the product of thousands of years of Judeo-Christian training. If a duck had bade Eve to eat of the tree of knowledge I might be rooting for the snake, but snakes have carried a connotation of evil for thousands of years and ducks are just annoying.
which is why i say leave the snakes alone and kill the ducks.
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A felony? That's crazy! But I suppose that's the place to start negotiations and go for stiffer misdemeanor charges/fines. On a side note, he looks like a duck to me! Maybe it was jealous rage? HAHAHAHA!!
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duckings have feathers - therefore are cute

snakes kill and eat primates, our ancestors and have no fur or feathers, therefore...
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and feathers are....?

edit: any opinions on feathers being evolved from scales?
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The guy probably can't even see the ground from the Hummer. If he'd been really trying, he would have gotten all eight of the ducklings dont ya think?
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We used to reserve felony charges for serious crimes.

The United States now has a greater percentage of its population incarcerated than any other developed nation, and most "undeveloped", third world nations.

Being an absolute flaming ass hole is not a felony. It's something, but it's not a felony.
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Felony? Ridiculous. How about some mandatory therapy? Way more helpful to him and society in general
I like Paul's suggestion, but I fear caning may fall into the "cruel and unusual" part of the gray area. Is it a felony, no. Horrific, yes, more importantly I think is what sort of person this young man appears to be.

Indicates to me that the kid is a bit of a sociopath. Say he drives away, rather than back and over the ducklings. Does he come back later for the people who stopped him from snatching a few?

If he is willing to run them over if he can't have them, WTF was he going to do with the ones he took anyway?

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