No Open Carry In Calagary :(

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by lm6y

Well there you have it folks. Canada is superior to the U.S. in every single way. They've got it all figured out, nothing more to see here.

At least several of the posters on this thread feel this way. Sure glad that not everyone see's things this way in the GWN.

[Hydrocket]

There were a total of 554 homicides for ALL of Canada for the most recent data year (2010). Fairly low for a country of ~35 million. Some cities in the USA get somewhat close to that figure by themselves.

As a gun owner, I have never really felt the need for a CCW. Not sure I'd get one even if they were legal to the average Joe. Even living just 1.5 miles from Detroit MI and their high crime rate, our city didn't have a murder for 2 years, and the 1st murder of 2012 happened in May. We have 2 murders for the year thus far.

Not sure I'd feel the same about not having a CCW in some US cities though.

[1990C4S]

Sorry, but to many Canadians this is just funny.

The leap between being asked a question in a park and 'I wish I had a gun with me' is a foreign concept to most of us. As is the notion that a letter to the local paper would be in order. It is akin to me writing to the London times that I was offended by airport guards with machine guns. I go there as a guest and accept their laws and customs.

There is no issue of superiority, it's different here. Not better, not worse. Different. The 'judgmental' issue here started with the letter writer, not the host country.

And even if people thought that our gun laws made more sense, no one is applying that concept to life here in general.

[recycled sixtie]

I see no reason to get bent out of shape over this situation. We have the longest undefended border in the world and for the longest time. The fact that two countries can live side by with no major issues speaks for itself. As the French say, "vive la difference". If countries were all the same, much like people life would be ..... boring. A basic anthropological premise, don't judge another country by the standards of your own applies here. No we are not superior nor is the US superior, just a different culture.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Drisump

I'm afraid he's right....it's an unwarranted trust in my mind, but as he said, most Canadians do trust their government to do the right thing. Amazing eh? I'm one of those Canadians that wouldn't want everybody carrying. What personal security advantage is it to carry when everyone else does? To me it simply multiplies the risk of death when an altercation breaks out, especially to bystanders. Cheers

While I totally get and respect other countries' cultures and laws and have no problem with Canadians' anti-gun sentiment, what you wrote above just isn't reality. In most (US) states where CCW is allowed, under 2% of the population has permits and probably only a fraction of them carry. Just because you can doesn't mean you will. And I'm not aware of a single altercation where two legal carriers escalated things to a gunfight. It just doesn't happen. Legal gun carriers tend to be the most law-abiding, well-behaved citizens. It's extremely rare, statistically negligent, that a legal carrier loses his right to carry because of misbehaving with a gun. I've been in several car accidents (never my fault) while I was carrying and the thought of even showing my gun never entered my mind. Anyone who would do so is not likely to be otherwise law-abiding or stay out of trouble for very long.

[johnsjmc]

[QUOTE=Rick Lee I've been in several car accidents (never my fault) while I was carrying and the thought of even showing my gun never entered my mind. Anyone who would do so is not likely to be otherwise law-abiding or stay out of trouble for very long.[/QUOTE]

The glock in your waist band when riding your bike was only there to keep your pants from riding up and not for show???

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by johnsjmc

The glock in your waist band when riding your bike was only there to keep your pants from riding up and not for show???

No, it was there because I was riding someone else's bike with no tank bag or other luggage for storing the gun, it was 115 deg. out, a few miles from my house and I didn't feel like suiting up. I never ride in such attire, so I didn't think ahead that my shirt would ride up.

[Joeaksa]

Rick,

Its a waste of time trying to do this. Showing facts and reason simply does not work...

I showed this thread to a Canadian friend of mine who lives down here and he just chuckled and said "Yea lots of them feel that way up there until they wake up. Thats why I moved down here years ago."

Let them ignore the truth and be happy in their own little world.

[johnsjmc]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Rick,

Its a waste of time trying to do this. Showing facts and reason simply does not work...

I showed this thread to a Canadian friend of mine who lives down here and he just chuckled and said "Yea lots of them feel that way up there until they wake up. Thats why I moved down here years ago."

Let them ignore the truth and be happy in their own little world.

How does NOT allowing foreign tourists to carry guns differ from the US ????
Remember Mr Warma? A foreign tourist . Let,s hear facts here

[gtc]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

I quickly moved between these two and my wife, replying, "Gentle-men, I have no need to talk with you, goodbye." They looked bewildered, and we then walked past them.

I bet if he were on duty and someone said this to him, he wouldn't just let them walk away.

I speculate they did not have good intentions when they approached in such an aggressive, disrespectful and menacing manner. I thank the Lord Jesus Christ they did not pull a weapon of some sort, but rather concluded it was in their best interest to leave us alone.

This is basically how I feel every time I encounter a cop.

[Hydrocket]

Originally Posted by johnsjmc

How does NOT allowing foreign tourists to carry guns differ from the US ????

Since 9/11 happened, I have to go through INSANE red tape to bring in my long guns to the USA for hunting or sport...let alone a concealed weapon!

The USA barely allows me to bring in long guns. No way do they allow foreigners to bring in concealed handguns.

[johnsjmc]

Originally Posted by Hydrocket

Since 9/11 happened, I have to go through INSANE red tape to bring in my long guns to the USA for hunting or sport...let alone a concealed weapon!

The USA barely allows me to bring in long guns. No way do they allow foreigners to bring in concealed handguns.

So all the American gun self defense advocates here should Start petitioning YOUR government to " arm tourists at the border for their own protection ".
Leave Canada out of the discussion until then.
You keep your right to bear arms and we will keep our right to bare breasts. LOL

[mossguy]

Why not both rights at the same time in USA and Canada?

[johnsjmc]

Originally Posted by mossguy

Why not both rights at the same time in USA and Canada?

Different country ,"vive le difference"

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by johnsjmc

How does NOT allowing foreign tourists to carry guns differ from the US ????
Remember Mr Warma? A foreign tourist . Let,s hear facts here

I don't want foreign tourists carrying here in the states. So Mr Warma needs to think this one out a bit more. Why would any gov't allow visitors to carry a weapon?

Sorry Canada, Warma was IMO out of line to suggest tourists should be able to carry. But he is certainly free to protect himself and his, and certainly free to speak his mind.

[Bill Douglas]

You guys should all be more like New Zealand. If we have a minior difference we settle it with a fist fight. A major difference, say a problem with another country, we settle it with a rugby game. Loser pays for the beers afterwards.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

You guys should all be more like New Zealand. If we have a minior difference we settle it with a fist fight. A major difference, say a problem with another country, we settle it with a rugby game. Loser pays for the beers afterwards.

I like your style. Good thing I also like the All Blacks! I could live with their rules.

[stealthn]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Rick,

Its a waste of time trying to do this. Showing facts and reason simply does not work...

I showed this thread to a Canadian friend of mine who lives down here and he just chuckled and said "Yea lots of them feel that way up there until they wake up. Thats why I moved down here years ago."

Let them ignore the truth and be happy in their own little world.

Wow Joe I just lost a little respect for you.....

Each of us is different, I'm not sure how all of Canada is ignoring the truth or living in our own little world, but we do try to mind our own business, and don't take everything the government tells us as truth.

I don't care about guns, I could own them but I don't, I don't care if my neighbour does. I don't agree with CCW in Canada except for extreme situations. If it's my time, doesn't matter if I have a knife, gun. nothing, it's my time.
I'd rather live my life to the fullest and not be so afraid of what might happen that I feel the need to carry a gun - again; each to their own.

Bob James

[Drisump]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

While I totally get and respect other countries' cultures and laws and have no problem with Canadians' anti-gun sentiment, what you wrote above just isn't reality. In most (US) states where CCW is allowed, under 2% of the population has permits and probably only a fraction of them carry. Just because you can doesn't mean you will. And I'm not aware of a single altercation where two legal carriers escalated things to a gunfight. It just doesn't happen. Legal gun carriers tend to be the most law-abiding, well-behaved citizens. It's extremely rare, statistically negligent, that a legal carrier loses his right to carry because of misbehaving with a gun. I've been in several car accidents (never my fault) while I was carrying and the thought of even showing my gun never entered my mind. Anyone who would do so is not likely to be otherwise law-abiding or stay out of trouble for very long.

Hey Rick, I realize that not everyone in the US carries but it's natural that the more citizens that believe that they need a weapon to feel secure, the more that will carry. The natural outcome is more and more people will carry, that is with a CCW or not. This thread seems to have got a little PARF like, Canadians are very close cousins to Americans, and yes there are cultural differences, but fundamentally we're about as close as two countries can be. Hey I like you guys!

[johnsjmc]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I don't want foreign tourists carrying here in the states. So Mr Warma needs to think this one out a bit more. Why would any gov't allow visitors to carry a weapon?

Sorry Canada, Warma was IMO out of line to suggest tourists should be able to carry. But he is certainly free to protect himself and his, and certainly free to speak his mind.

Exactly !!