No Open Carry In Calagary :(

[9dreizig]

Just an FYI,, Canada lead the world in deaths by hockey sticks..

[imcarthur]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

Just an FYI,, Canada lead the world in deaths by hockey sticks..

Whew. Last I heard, we were only #1 in beaver molestations.

Ian

[GWN7]

Being in Calgary and being asked if you have been to the Stampede yet is like being in Michigan in November and being asked if you got your deer yet.

The Stampede is the Superbowl of Rodeo.

The kids probably had extra tickets to the Stampede and were going to offer them to the tourists for free but his hostile attitude threw them off.

Canada has gun crime but most of it is from illegal guns smuggled in from the USA.

[pksystems]

They were mentioning this on the radio the other day.... Yeah... the guy seems a bit nutty. He probably didn't know what the stampede was, and thought the guys were high.

Here's a letter to the editor that is even more shocking. This nut is from Canada.

PM complicit in climate, shootings - thestar.com

[Reg]

Originally Posted by pksystems

They were mentioning this on the radio the other day.... Yeah... the guy seems a bit nutty. He probably didn't know what the stampede was, and thought the guys were high.

Here's a letter to the editor that is even more shocking. This nut is from Canada.

PM complicit in climate, shootings - thestar.com

Where you from PK? Let me guess.... LOL

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by johnsjmc

Most Canadians don,t want guns here. I also repeat we don,t want armed tourists either. It,s not a question of the gov,t taking them away.

Funny thing is John, that the Canadians I know and work with, and I used to work with the largest employer in Canada (Bombardier) the vast majority of them were very against the Govt once again sticking their noses in their lives, especially when it came to firearms.

My copilot is Canadian, one of the girl's I am going out with is Canadian and both of them have CCW permits and they carry most of the time. Guess you do not know them because they feel 100% opposite from what you post above...

[johnsjmc]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Funny thing is John, that the Canadians I know and work with, and I used to work with the largest employer in Canada (Bombardier) the vast majority of them were very against the Govt once again sticking their noses in their lives, especially when it came to firearms.

My copilot is Canadian, one of the girl's I am going out with is Canadian and both of them have CCW permits and they carry most of the time. Guess you do not know them because they feel 100% opposite from what you post above...

With gun permits of all kinds in Canada at about 1.9 million (data from an official RCMP site) and a population around 35 million . It appears MOST Canadians don,t want guns.
Is your copilot,s CCW issued by Canada ? I doubt it, because a CCW here requires a really good reason "like working with wild animals ".
Also most Canadians trust the government after all we elected them . Being fired up about govt interference is not a typical Canadian reaction to anything

[Joeaksa]

The problem is, or so I am told, all the hoops you have to jump through to get a CCW in the GWN.

You can play with numbers all you want to support YOUR personal feeling. I talk with people and hear what they say and not numbers on the internet.

No, he finally gave up shoveling snow and moved to Arizona years ago. He has a American CCW... hmm guess he is one of those Canadians who do not show up on your funny little survey!

[Joeaksa]

Here, let me shoot a lot of holes in your post above. There is a very good reason why your numbers attempt to show a low number of CCW holders in Canada!

~~~~~
The practice of CCW is technically legal in many jurisdictions in Canada; however, in practice, it is often not permitted through the refusal to issue permits. This is the legal situation for Canadians, where an Authorization to Carry (ATC) exists, but the provincial chief firearm officers (CFOs) have agreed not to issue such licenses. Concealment of the firearm is permitted only if specifically stipulated in the terms of the ATC (thus this would then be a specific class of ATC, specifically an ATC-3 or type 3) and is in practice nearly impossible to obtain.

In Canada, for wilderness protection, individuals may receive limited licenses to permit open carry called ATC-2, but only within specific highly restrictive uninhabited areas. There must be sufficient reason to believe the life of the individual could be endangered if not permitted to carry, due to bear or other wildlife activity, and additionally that they would not be feasibly able to carry a long arm Non-restricted Firearm due to other equipment. In practice, the policy toward carrying while hunting has been a complete ban since 1979. CFO staff have been variously quoted as stating "If you can shoot it with a rifle, you can finish it with a rifle." On these grounds, the known number of ATCs issued in any province has remained very low.

In the case of ATCs issued for wilderness purposes, the typical restrictions in Canada are that the firearm be visible at all times (it is an offence in the Canadian Criminal Code to carry any concealed weapon) and may not be worn within five kilometers of any city limit. This has the effect of further limiting the utility of any issued ATC, and thoroughly restricting it only to wilderness locations. Applicants for an ATC for wilderness purposes typically number in the hundreds, and concealed permit holders (ATC-3) are nearly non-existent. Ontario (the most populous Canadian province at 13 million) serves as an apt example: 13 ATC-3 were active and issued in that province as of 2002.
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Concealed carry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[imcarthur]

Originally Posted by johnsjmc

Also most Canadians trust the government after all we elected them . Being fired up about govt interference is not a typical Canadian reaction to anything

Actually this is very true. We let them know they have crossed the line by electing the other guy . . . until the new gov't party's scandals outweigh their usefulness & we do it all again. But always calmly & passively.

Ian

[johnsjmc]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Funny thing is John, that the Canadians I know and work with, and I used to work with the largest employer in Canada (Bombardier) the vast majority of them were very against the Govt once again sticking their noses in their lives, especially when it came to firearms.

My copilot is Canadian, one of the girl's I am going out with is Canadian and both of them have CCW permits and they carry most of the time. Guess you do not know them because they feel 100% opposite from what you post above...

Please keep the location of the issue CCW in mind . As I said before most Canadians HERE don,t want guns carried by foreign tourists. If gun ownership overall is so low here why would we want tourists with more firepower than some of our local authorities? I know there are more long guns in the country but most are for hunting or collecting ,or farming use etc. Not needed for self defense .
I know the concept of Mr.Warwa with a gun anywhere in my country doesn,t make me feel safer in any way. It might make him feel safer but not worth it to me if he ends up shooting some innocent kids because they had " given him bad vibes "

[stealthn]

I am from Calgary and this story has been beat to death, i now feel sorry for the cop as social media is killing him. I don't understand his need to write a letter expressing why he felt bad he could not carry a firearm in a foreign country?

Calgary is a very safe place to live, and i am surprised in a large public park he felt threatened. They must have had indications of being tourists for the two boys/kids/men to ask them that question, and by not answering or responding to the first query, they as again in a "more threatning manner" maybe beacause they thought the old guy was hard of hearing. When he responded, they looked bewildered; because they weren't exepcting an unfriendly respond from some guy when asked a simple question.

Total overreaction that has been totally overblown.

And yes we have lots of guns here, but most of them are for fetching dinner

Bob James

[GWN7]

I wouldn't believe any information that comes from the RCMP about the gun registry. They realise figures but they are biased to there own agenda.

When the gun laws came into effect I stood in line and payed my money to get my possession licence. You need a possession licence to purchase ammo or borrow a long gun. I then filled out the form to register my long guns. I even had a gunsmith stamp a serial number on my uncles Cooey 22 so it would be legal and sent the form in. Several years later I got a letter from the RCMP/gun registry informing me that my possession licence was no longer valid as I had not registered any guns. They had lost my form. So I wrote the RCMP officer back who sent me the letter and asked how they could have lost my registration form and when did the law change that I no longer needed the licence to buy ammo or borrow a gun? Guess what, no answer. So until the long gun registry was repealed I technically was a criminal because of government incompetence.

The RCMP brass have made it clear that there agenda is no one but them should have guns.

In Western Canada guns are tools to be used. In Eastern Canada they are weapons to be feared.

[Mark Henry]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa
Funny thing is John, that the Canadians I know and work with, and I used to work with the largest employer in Canada (Bombardier) the vast majority of them were very against the Govt once again sticking their noses in their lives, especially when it came to firearms.

My copilot is Canadian, one of the girl's I am going out with is Canadian and both of them have CCW permits and they carry most of the time. Guess you do not know them because they feel 100% opposite from what you post above...

So the total of two Canadians you know is a good representation of the total Canadian population?
...and I guess where they live now has nothing to do with that choice.

The majority of Canadians do not want handguns to say otherwise is pure BS. We are a democracy so majority rules.
Many of us, especially us country folk have at least one long gun.
When I was a child we didn't even lock the doors in small towns. The meter reader would walk right in to read the meter.

In Canada our present crime stats are lower than they were in 1970.

BTW Bombardier is the 3rd largest employer.

[lm6y]

Well there you have it folks. Canada is superior to the U.S. in every single way. They've got it all figured out, nothing more to see here.

[skipdup]

This is an interesting read (to me anyway, despite it's length) that looks at some of the "misconceptions" brought up in this thread...
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

[speed_pro]

its a safe place!

[recycled sixtie]

Originally Posted by lm6y

Well there you have it folks. Canada is superior to the U.S. in every single way. They've got it all figured out, nothing more to see here.

Canada is not superior to the US. It is just different.
You vote with your feet.

[bell]

Originally Posted by johnsjmc

Also most Canadians trust the government after all we elected them .

Wow.......lol

[Drisump]

Originally Posted by bell

Wow.......lol

I'm afraid he's right....it's an unwarranted trust in my mind, but as he said, most Canadians do trust their government to do the right thing. Amazing eh? I'm one of those Canadians that wouldn't want everybody carrying. What personal security advantage is it to carry when everyone else does? To me it simply multiplies the risk of death when an altercation breaks out, especially to bystanders. Cheers