Let's talk about world class beers again.

[Rick Lee]

The real one from the Czech Republic.



This smoke beer was pretty different, got it in Bamberg.



My pilgrimage to the holy land of beer.

[dhoward]

Originally Posted by Hydrocket

IIRC, Miller and Budweiser are primarily rice beers now...as is Coors.

My favorite rice beer is Sapporo.

Most American lagers will use up to about 30% rice as an adjunct. It provides fermentable sugars and contributes to '"mouth feel" without adding any flavor. The primary ingredient is still malted barley.

[Hydrocket]

Originally Posted by dhoward

Most American lagers will use up to about 30% rice as an adjunct. It provides fermentable sugars and contributes to '"mouth feel" without adding any flavor. The primary ingredient is still malted barley.

Many currently use more.

"Coors Brewing Co. quietly changed the recipe of its Original Coors beer as part of a marketing strategy emphasizing the brand's heritage. The company confirmed that it returned to a 100% rice- based adjunct recipe - the recipe that the company abandoned in the mid-1970s. Coors began using corn starch in the mid-70s because of "volatility" in the rice market, causing concerns about price, quality and availability. Taste-test panels determined that the company could employ corn starch without "affecting the taste," said Dave Taylor, the brewer's corporate communications manager. Hoping to reverse the brand's 20-year sales decline, the Golden brewer announced in the spring that it redesigned the packaging, devised a fresh advertising campaign and improved the quality. Coors debated the wisdom of publicizing the formula change in the spring, deciding to de-emphasize it with the help of the "improved quality" euphemism. "We didn't want to create the perception that we were making radical changes," Taylor said. "Consumers might not notice the difference in the recipe." (Source: Steve Caulk, Rocky Mountain News, August 29, Thursday, Business; Pg. 1B)"

[dhoward]

No.
What that article is saying is that the adjunct they are using is 100% rice, no more corn.
Malted barley is the main ingredient.
Adjuncts add no flavors, ideally.
I have duplicated both Bud and Coors recipes.

[Hydrocket]

Originally Posted by dhoward

No.
What that article is saying is that the adjunct they are using is 100% rice, no more corn.
Malted barley is the main ingredient.
Adjuncts add no flavors, ideally.
I have duplicated both Bud and Coors recipes.

I understood what you said. You quoted some recipes use 30% rice as an adjunct. I merely replied that some are using a 100% rice adjunct.


When I refer to "rice beer" in a general term, I'm referring to beers that are typically called "Japanese Rice Lagers" such as Sapporo, Asahi, Orion etc.

**EDIT** I see I left out "adjunct" in my post about Coors, Budweiser and Miller...sorry for the oversight!! I've fixed the original post to reflect that.

[vas930]

Boags Premium, made in Tasmania.
That Sapporo is great beer.
And slodave got me drinking Becks.
Three good beers.

[VINMAN]

Meh, perfectly content with a Yuengling.

or one of my crappy homebrews....

[onewhippedpuppy]

Meh, perfectly content with a Yuengling.



or one of my crappy homebrews....

I envy you E coast folks, Yuengleng isn't sold this far West.

[Rick Lee]

Yuengling is good beer. I'll be in Pittsburgh this week and plan to have a few.

[cashman]

Glad to see Krombacher on the list. When I visit Germany, this is my beer of choice. I can drink lots of it, catch a good one, and be able to function in business meetings the next morning. I liked it so much I tried to find it in the USA and had Zero luck ! I stumbled across it last month for the first time driving to the beach and wiped them out on my way to the beach and on my return.

Problem I have with many of the beers on this list is they sit on the shelf for months (and months) and usually taste like the back end of a skunk when I finally buy them (not that I officially know what that tastes like).

Miller Lite - My large domestic "go to" beer when I know I'm drinking all night
Yuengling - Great tasting beer - not morning friendly to me for some reason?
Asian Beer - Singha
Mexican Beer - Negra Modelo
German Beer - There all great! Krombacher being my all nighter
Domestic - Small brewery - Sam Adams, Bells Amber, Sweetwater 420, Magic Hat 9, and others
High content beers - Don't really like them over 7%-8%. Start to taste winey.

[cashflyer]

When I used to work in NJ, the boss would stock the fridge with Yuengling on Fridays so that we could all sit around and have a beer after the work week was over. The reason he purchased Yuengling was that it was the cheapest beer he could find that was not "too cheap" for his standards. He wouldn't buy Carling or Shaeffer, but by the case Yuengling was just a buck or two more at $11.95 per case.

Then one day the marketing faeries decided it was some sort of premium beer. Their faerie magic worked; people started paying more for it and raving about how good it is.

Was it better quality than the price would have led people to believe? Was it really a $24 per case beer that was just a super bargain? I don't know. I just remember it was cold and free. But in my mind, it is still a $12/case beer so I never buy it at current prices.

[VINMAN]

Originally Posted by cashman

Miller Lite - My large domestic "go to" beer when I know I'm drinking all night
.

Miller Lite is pretty much the staple beer of choice around here. If I know im gonna be pounding them down all day or night, i'll stick with one of the domestic lights.

Cash , Yuenglings not cheap anymore.

[BRPORSCHE]

You guys are killing me.

[IXXI_carrera]

Back when I used to travel to Europe frequently, particularly western Europe, I enjoyed Caffrey's. Nice Irish Ale.

[craigster59]

Schlenkerla Rauchbier (the one Rick Lee mentioned) is one of my favorites along with Augustiner Brau fresh from the keg. I also dring Negra Modelo and Coors. Heck, I'll drink anything except for Blue Moon (can't stand that coriander).

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I envy you E coast folks, Yuengleng isn't sold this far West.

It's sold in OH as of 2012. Now I can travel across the state line and purchase.

On craft beers, real ales are making a come back. People are getting tired of commercial lagers and are starting to appreciate a real, living, ale.

Real Ale is consumer rights movement called CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale).

CAMRA - Campaign for Real Ale

Campaigning for real ale, pubs & drinkers' rights since 1971

Signup

[Tim Hancock]

I would kill for a case of Shaeffer Light. I have not had one since the late 80's when it was our favorite college chugging contest beer. Laugh all you want, but I drank so much of it back then that I grew accustomed to it and crave it to this day. Prior to that ijn highschool it was Old Milwaukee Light (AKA Old KillDonkey)

Pretty sure neither have been produced in years.

About the only beer I drink any more is an occasional Yuengling or Corona that I typically stock in my shop fridge or Fosters with a steak at Outback.

[TheMentat]

Pilsner Urquell is one of my favs, and they serve it on tap at my local pub in these proper 0.5L glasses:



I also really like Grolsch.

[cashman]

You bring up a great point. Nothing jacks me up like ordering a great draught beer and having it served in a Bud Light glass. In Germany, every beer is served in its appropriate glass. Just a pet peeve of mine. I'm actually not a beer snob.

[VincentVega]

Beast light or bust.

I've had a few Sam Adams Summer Styles 12 packs this year, good stuff.