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enzo1 03-07-2014 11:48 AM

What Steve Jobs said:


“Steve Jobs was once asked at an Apple [AAPL] shareholder meeting by a shareholder who wanted get some insights into his deepest thinking: ‘What keeps you awake at night?’” Steve Denning writes for Forbes. “Mr. Jobs replied, ‘Shareholder meetings.’”

techweenie 03-18-2014 05:50 PM

This is an interesting read:

APPLE: THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO - Business Insider

McLovin 03-18-2014 09:19 PM

Interesting article.

I think "Apple is the new Microsoft" may be true. They of course aren't going away, but their days of huge innovation and growth may be over.

motion 03-19-2014 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 7968997)
Interesting article.

I think "Apple is the new Microsoft" may be true. They of course aren't going away, but their days of huge innovation and growth may be over.

I disagree. There is still huge potential for innovation with new tech, materials, social, etc. There are whole undiscovered applications out there. The world's appetite has now been whetted. Apple just needs to be the one to bring the new tech to the world. They're very good at that, and I expect them to continue. But, for sure, it won't be at the same level as it would have been with Steve in charge.

911pcars 03-19-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 7968997)
Interesting article.

I think "Apple is the new Microsoft" may be true. They of course aren't going away, but their days of huge innovation and growth may be over.

Except their stuff works better than MS's. Big dif.

BTW, AT&T's big invention was the telephone. I think they're still doing okay, maybe more than okay since the US govt. might be their most important client.

However, modern electronics is a moving target with new tech always potentially changing the landscape of communications. Tech companies have to stay on top or keep up with their competitors otherwise they fade away like so many have. Last I heard, the crystal ball has yet to be invented.

Sherwood

McLovin 03-19-2014 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 7969482)
I disagree. There is still huge potential for innovation with new tech, materials, social, etc. There are whole undiscovered applications out there. The world's appetite has now been whetted. Apple just needs to be the one to bring the new tech to the world. They're very good at that, and I expect them to continue. But, for sure, it won't be at the same level as it would have been with Steve in charge.

Maybe. They certainly were very good at it during the Jobs years.

I don't know if we can point to much evidence of Apple being the one to bring new tech to the world in the post-Jobs era.

Being the "New Microsoft" isn't a huge fail, as the article points out. AAPL will for sure always be around and will always be a huge company (just like Microsoft).

But in today's tech world, without some really big innovations, the stock price may very well remain stagnant for years on end (just like Microsoft, which was at $20 in 1998 and is still under $40 today - 16 years to not even double in price).

enzo1 03-19-2014 12:20 PM

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enzo1 03-22-2014 10:17 AM

Apple's iPhone 5c 'failure flop' outsold Blackberry, Windows Phone and every Android flagship in Q4

techweenie 03-22-2014 01:25 PM

I've been hearing predictions of doom for Apple since being at the introduction of the Apple II in April 1977. Lots of people have a big emotional investment in Apple failing. It continues to dash their hopes.

911pcars 03-22-2014 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 7975254)
I've been hearing predictions of doom for Apple since being at the introduction of the Apple II in April 1977. Lots of people have a big emotional investment in Apple failing. It continues to dash their hopes.

Not that Apple doesn't have its own issues. However, I think there's a positive correlation between M/Windows owners and those who hate Apple Corp.

That's a little different from people who own M/Windows 7/8 and those who also hate M/Windows 8.

Sherwood

techweenie 03-25-2014 10:55 AM

Apple Quietly Sells Its 500 Millionth iPhone - Mac Rumors

enzo1 04-23-2014 01:03 PM

go baby go....:) http://macdailynews.com/2014/04/23/macdailynews-presents-live-notes-from-apples-q214-conference-call/

widgeon13 04-23-2014 01:05 PM

7:1stock split and increasing div!

enzo1 04-23-2014 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 8030445)
7:1stock split and increasing div!

and increase share buyback 30 B to 90 B....

JeremyD 04-23-2014 01:44 PM

7-1 Biches! yee ha!

techweenie 04-23-2014 01:45 PM

People always say 7:1, but I believe it's more proper to say 1:7. In any case, wheee!

slakjaw 04-23-2014 07:55 PM

i dont own any apple stock but good for those of you who do. That said, the iphone 6 is looking like it might be super ugly. whats up with that?

porsche4life 04-23-2014 07:58 PM

What say the stock guys about about buying a few shares of AAPL in the next day or two?

GH85Carrera 04-24-2014 04:45 AM

Sid,

Apple, Microsoft, GE, or AT&T are all long term investments. Don't expect any huge gains but they will not flush down the drain.

Just my opinion.

techweenie 04-24-2014 09:41 AM

An interesting comment that came out yesterday:

Citing research from App Annie and Chitika, the company stated that the iPad generated four times the mobile web traffic as all Android tablets combined, and that two-thirds of US consumers that planned to purchase a tablet in the next 3 months would be purchasing an iPad.

PushingMyLuck 04-24-2014 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 8030445)
7:1stock split and increasing div!

What exactly do you think a stock split means for you?
You still have the exact same dollar value of AAPL stock.

dan88911 04-24-2014 08:05 PM

More shares... additional dividends, got to think long term.

Ferraripete 04-24-2014 08:17 PM

core holding. but, 1:7 will create more trading action going forward as well.

techweenie 04-29-2014 01:00 PM

Maybe 80% of the time, a stock does just what AAPL did: rise on the news of a split. I think the stock is up 12% or so as of today, post-announcement.

911_Dude 04-29-2014 03:11 PM

Yea- long hold pays. Again.

imcarthur 05-05-2014 12:38 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1399322205.jpg

It broke the $600 barrier at close.

Ian

widgeon13 05-05-2014 12:40 PM

As long as they keep buying back shares I'll be holding mine.

techweenie 05-05-2014 12:55 PM

Rumors hit today about a 'health management system' involving the "iWatch." Some think it's the Next Big Thing.

widgeon13 05-05-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 8049877)
Rumors hit today about a 'health management system' involving the "iWatch." Some think it's the Next Big Thing.

I found this:

That biometric EarPod story was a load of baloney | Apple news, reviews and how-to's since 2004

techweenie 05-05-2014 02:47 PM

What you found is old news.

Apple Considering 'Full Health and Fitness Services Platform' Modeled on the App Store
Monday May 5, 2014 6:30 am PDT by Kelly Hodgkins

Apple allegedly is looking beyond the iWatch wearable device and may be creating a new health and fitness ecosystem modeled on its successful iOS App Store, claims a mobile health executive who recently spoke to Reuters. Similar to the iOS App Store, this new platform may allow companies to develop their own mobile medical applications that could tie into Apple's iWatch wearable device.

One mobile health executive, who asked not to be named, told Reuters he recently sat down with an Apple executive from the iWatch team. He said the company has aspirations beyond wearable devices, and is considering a full health and fitness services platform modeled on its apps store.

As part of iOS 8 later this year, Apple is rumored to be launching a new Healthbook app, which is expected to serve as a repository for health-related data acquired from a variety of sources. Based on the breadth of data the app appears to be able to track, it is unsurprising that Apple will be looking to open up the ecosystem to third parties to help users fill out all of the various content areas.

One company that could benefit from an Apple health and fitness ecosystem is Nike, which has scaled back its work on its Fuelband hardware to focus on expanding its software-based NikeFuel platform. Though Nike CEO Mark Parker would not directly comment on specific plans with Apple, Parker did note in a recent CNBC appearance that Apple is a longtime partner and that he is "excited about where that relationship will go forward."

Much of today's report focuses on Apple's health- and sensor-related hires over the past several years, most of which have previously been detailed and which have been focused around non-invasive monitoring of vital health parameters such as sleep, oxygen saturation and blood glucose levels. Apple has hired talent from notable companies such as pulse oximetry company Masimo, medical sensor company Vital Connect and Philips Sleep Research.

Apple's latest reported hire is MIT researcher Eric Winokur, who worked on ear-worn devices for monitoring blood pressure and heart rate. Information about Winokur's hiring surfaced alongside a sketchy rumor claiming Apple is planning to launch an EarPods model with integrated heart rate and blood pressure sensors. While a new Tumblr blog post reveals that the claim was indeed fabricated, Apple patent applications suggest the company has indeed considered the integration of biometric sensors into its headphone line in the past.

Apple's sensor-laden iWatch has been rumored for several years, with most recent rumors suggesting that it may debut late this year. It is not expected to be unveiled at the company's Worldwide Developers Conference set for early June.

widgeon13 05-07-2014 03:50 AM

Guess we'll just have to wait and see. :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1399463388.jpg

McLovin 05-07-2014 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 8052525)
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1399463388.jpg

Stock will soar on the official announcement of the iPoop!

techweenie 05-07-2014 08:16 PM

Nah, that's not how it works. Stock will soar on the rumors of the iPoop and drop on the announcement, because it won't be innovative enough.

imcarthur 05-23-2014 01:16 PM

Well, it is certainly running up to the split. But will it continue after? Will the buy in from the cheap seats be enough to hold ground through the summer doldrums until the new hardware launches? If/when/whatever that might be?

Or is it time to sell & buy Google?

Ian

Vintage Racer 05-23-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 8080234)
Or is it time to sell & buy Google?

You are asking the wrong questions.

Apple is a hardware company that moves merchandise.

Google is an company that sells advertising (an ad company).

motion 05-23-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintage Racer (Post 8080447)
You are asking the wrong questions.

Apple is a hardware company that moves merchandise.

Google is an company that sells advertising (an ad company).

I'm pretty sure Ian knows this. His question is still valid.

Vintage Racer 05-23-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 8080484)
I'm pretty sure Ian knows this. His question is still valid.

Google has the much better growth rate. Page and Brin are alive. Jobs is dead.

imcarthur 05-23-2014 04:17 PM

Thanks, Motion.

But yes, I guess the real question is: a wildly successful hardware company (that may/may not be stuttering) versus the most incredible ad company ever?

Thankfully, I don't have a lot riding on the correct answer.

Ian

Noah930 05-23-2014 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 8080556)

Thankfully, I don't have a lot riding on the correct answer.

That's not the internet spirit! Where's your bravado?

imcarthur 05-23-2014 04:26 PM

Bravado? When it comes to the stock market I have none. The stock picks my advisor (the Room Monkey - who works in finance) tells me to buy, make nice solid slow returns. Everything I buy on my own with mad money, drops like a stone. My financial creds are crap. :rolleyes:

Ian


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