AAPL: How high will it go?

[techweenie]

iPhone 4S is free with contract.

Apple is headed toward 700 million iOS devices sold. When iOS 7 comes out on the 20th, it will likely become the #1 mobile OS (Android market is splintered).

All iOS devices are in the "Apple ecosystem," and able to access purchased (and free) items via iTunes.

25 billion songs sold as of 2/13

40 billion applications downloaded as of 1/13

# movies & TV episodes rented -- unknown, but likely in the 10s of millions each.

As big as Apple's content commerce momentum is, individual products and product evolvement have less and less impact. That's not to say it's becoming stale, just changing. Trust me, any of its competitors would love to have Apple's challenges right now.

[widebody911]

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Yep.

[porsche4life]

That's right.... Because the govt hasn't been getting our prints with our drivers license for years now...


Gimme a freaking break.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

That's right.... Because the govt hasn't been getting our prints with our drivers license for years now...

I dunno about you, but I was never fingerprinted for my driver's licenses. Not in NJ, not in NY, and not in AZ.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

I dunno about you, but I was never fingerprinted for my driver's licenses. Not in NJ, not in NY, and not in AZ.

Texas takes both thumb prints.

[HHI944]

Not in GA or SC.....

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by HHI944

Not in GA or SC.....

Nor NC or FL. I wouldn't like that at all...I'd give 'em the finger rather than a finger print

[imcarthur]

No 'extra' news from China . . .

"Apple’s Beijing iPhone event on Wednesday has just ended with no new announcements for a market it desperately needs to succeed in, and prices for the new 5C higher than Americans will pay for the high-end 5S.

The fruity tech titan was rumoured to be ready to announce a long-awaited tie-up with China Mobile, the world’s largest carrier by subscribers, which would have given it access to the firm’s 700 million customers.

However, in pokey looking room in Beijing, all the local hacks were treated to was a re-run of Apple’s official launch in the US a few hours earlier."

Ian

[widgeon13]

Down another 19 in premarket.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Is done in CA, not in MA (yet, but I'm sure it's coming) or NH.

[motion]

We have liftoff!

[enzo1]

9 million vs 5 million the analyst were predicting...someone is going to have to up their numbers they could have sold more had they not run out

[Don Ro]

Off topic Q:
.
How's the technology on that finger print deal working out?
When I bought my Lenovo R61i back in 2008, the techs said to not even use the finger print feature.
The new phones have been already hacked in Germany using tape to transfer the owner's print, etc.

[enzo1]

Originally Posted by Don Ro

Off topic Q:
.
How's the technology on that finger print deal working out?
When I bought my Lenovo R61i back in 2008, the techs said to not even use the finger print feature.
The new phones have been already hacked in Germany using tape to transfer the owner's print, etc.

“The venerable Chaos Computer Club hacker collective claims to have bypassed Apple’s much-vaunted TouchID biometric security mechanism, as used in the new iPhone 5s,” David Meyer reports for GigaOM.
“This isn’t a hardcore technological hack so much as a good old-fashioned fake fingerprint technique. You find the iPhone owner’s print somewhere (the device itself may carry a few on its glossy surfaces), put some powder on it to make it more visible, then photograph or scan it at high resolution. Clean up the reversed image, print it at high resolution using thick ink, then use that to make a thin latex dummy, which you can put on your finger and use to unlock the iPhone,” Meyer reports. “CCC spokesman Dirk Engling suggested that Apple may have allowed the flaw when trying to balance security and ease of use. ‘In the end you have to shift the balance to more comfort, and that’s apparently what Apple did,’ he said. ‘Out in the field, people would have problems unlocking their iPhones if they were to be too strict. This is a basic problem of biometrics.’”


“If it’s pickpocketing you’re worried about, then bear in mind that your iPhone is probably covered in your fingerprints. That said, making a fake print of the quality we’re talking about here is not trivial and it also takes a while, making it likely that the owner would just remotely wipe the device before anything can be accessed,” Meyer reports. “If it’s muggers or overzealous law enforcement or border agents that you’re thinking about, then this ‘hack’ doesn’t make a blind bit of difference. Merely having a biometric access mechanism makes it possible to grab your hand and use it to unlock the phone… The only real worry here relates to a more targeted attack, perhaps by a private investigator who’s after some juicy corporate secrets.”

[enzo1]

Originally Posted by enzo1

“ The only real worry here relates to a more targeted attack, perhaps by a private investigator who’s after some juicy corporate secrets.”

" if someone wanted to make the phone as secure as possible use Touch ID and the password together and the odds of someone hacking your phone will be 1 in 500 million!"

[Vintage Racer]

Originally Posted by enzo1

9 million vs 5 million the analyst were predicting...

Net, net. Apple raised their financial forecast to near the high end of previous guidance.

They compared the release of the two new different phones in all markets compared to one new phone in limited markets (the 5, the 4S, and the 4).

They have also lost about 22% of world-wide market share to the Android operating system in just 18 months. The stock is cheap for a good reason.

[widgeon13]

So are you buying some or more?

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by enzo1

“The venerable Chaos Computer Club hacker collective claims to have bypassed Apple’s much-vaunted TouchID biometric security mechanism, as used in the new iPhone 5s,” David Meyer reports for GigaOM.
“This isn’t a hardcore technological hack so much as a good old-fashioned fake fingerprint technique. You find the iPhone owner’s print somewhere (the device itself may carry a few on its glossy surfaces), put some powder on it to make it more visible, then photograph or scan it at high resolution. Clean up the reversed image, print it at high resolution using thick ink, then use that to make a thin latex dummy, which you can put on your finger and use to unlock the iPhone,” Meyer reports. “CCC spokesman Dirk Engling suggested that Apple may have allowed the flaw when trying to balance security and ease of use. ‘In the end you have to shift the balance to more comfort, and that’s apparently what Apple did,’ he said. ‘Out in the field, people would have problems unlocking their iPhones if they were to be too strict. This is a basic problem of biometrics.’”


“If it’s pickpocketing you’re worried about, then bear in mind that your iPhone is probably covered in your fingerprints. That said, making a fake print of the quality we’re talking about here is not trivial and it also takes a while, making it likely that the owner would just remotely wipe the device before anything can be accessed,” Meyer reports. “If it’s muggers or overzealous law enforcement or border agents that you’re thinking about, then this ‘hack’ doesn’t make a blind bit of difference. Merely having a biometric access mechanism makes it possible to grab your hand and use it to unlock the phone… The only real worry here relates to a more targeted attack, perhaps by a private investigator who’s after some juicy corporate secrets.”

Since it requires 1. physical possession of the phone and 2. that the owner chose to use this optional locking feature and 3. a print of whichever specific finger or thumb used on the scanner (user's choice), that presupposes a lot of "ifs." Someone noted this week that a toe can be used as well, BTW.

[enzo1]

Apple (AAPL) Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook has taken plenty of flack for running a company that is supposedly well past its glory days—and the iPhone smartphone franchise is sometimes dismissed as a spent force, losing ground to more innovative brands such as Android and Samsung Well, here’s a little perspective for the Apple-haters.

The iPhone 5s and 5c sold a record 9 million units during the first weekend after its launch. Consider this: The brand’s sales haul over the last four reported quarters eclipses that of such companies as Home Depot (HD), Microsoft (MSFT), Target (TGT), Goldman Sachs (GS), Amazon (AMZN), PepsiCo (PEP), Comcast (CMCSA), Dell (DELL), Google (GOOG), Pfizer (PFE), and UPS (UPS).

If this single product were its own company in the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index, IPhone Inc. would outsell 474 of those companies—ranking between Wells Fargo (WFC) ($90.5 billion) and Marathon Petroleum (MPC) ($84.9 billion). The iPhone’s $88.4 billion in annualized revenue tops 21 of the 30 component companies in the Dow Jones industrial average—it would be the ninth-biggest stock in the Dow 30:
Look at that again, this time focusing on the 21 Dow companies the iPhone beats:


One more fun fact: The majority of Apple sales comes from this one product—iPhone sales ($88.4 billion) are greater than the sum of Apple’s remaining products—including the iPad, Mac laptops and desktops, and iTunes—combined ($81 billion). Listen Up Apple-Haters: IPhone Sales Eclipse Microsoft and Amazon Revenue - Businessweek