AAPL: How high will it go?

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by jyl

Did some reading on smartphone battery life. Seems to vary widely, Moto 360 is the worst (reviewers report 14-24 hours) and Samsung Gear 2 is the best (reviewers report as much as 2-3 days). I'm not including the Pebble. The Moto and Gear 2 have similar capacity batteries (300 mah) but the Moto 360 uses a four-year old 45nm Texas Instruments processors that is a power suck compared the the latest Samsung processors. The Apple Watch uses a custom Apple processor, the "S1". I am hoping that Apple has used its semiconductor design skills and proprietary control of OS and apps to get better battery life than the Gear 2. A week of battery life would be great, 3-5 days would be okay. I would have to think hard about buying a smartwatch that got only 2 days battery life. And I cannot believe Motorola released the Moto 360 at all.

I'm wondering how the Apple watch will do with Wifi. THAT is a power suck.

[carambola]

ever see the movie "the jerk"
i foresee class action lawsuit for either wrist burns or carpal tunnel

[red-beard]

40 & 38mm bands, will need about a 4mm bezel. So, 30mm Retina display. This should be ~350x350 resolution. The Gear 2 is 320x320. Gearfit is 432x128.

What I haven't liked about the Samsung watches is the "plasticy" nature. I prefer my Sony Smartwatch 2. It is a metal design, 40mm. Screen resolution is lower (240x240), but it has an "always on", non-backlit mode. It also lasts about 3 days.

And the Gear 2, Gearfit and the SW2 are IP65 or IP66 or IP67. You can wear them in the pool! The original Galaxy Gear was not.

[jyl]

I am not sure the Apple Watch has WiFi. It doesn't need it. Just needs a connection to the iPhone, probably Bluetooth Smart.

I don't like the wireless charging. I would have preferred a Magsafe connector just like the MacBook, so that you don't have to carry a second charger and perhaps could charge faster. I assume it was an aesthetic choice.

I hope there will be third party watch faces. I'd like a Heuer "Monaco" face.

Red, does your Gearfit reliably measure your heart rate during hard exercise? I've heard the wrist optical sensors have a hard time with that. Also, does it have to be positioned precisely on your wrist to read HR?

3 days battery life would be barely tolerable. To me.

[enzo1]

it has Wi-Fi 802.11b/g & Bluetooth 4.0...

[jyl]

I hope it only uses the wifi to update software. Like red says, wifi will suck the battery.

The battery on these smart watches is 1/5 the capacity of an iPhone 5 battery. So power consumption is critical.

Apple knows a lot about power saving. They and Samsung are the only smartphone makers who design their own processors. Apple also makes their own OS and most of the apps. So if anyone can get decent battery life from a smart watch, it really should be them.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by jyl

I am not sure the Apple Watch has WiFi. It doesn't need it. Just needs a connection to the iPhone, probably Bluetooth Smart.

I don't like the wireless charging. I would have preferred a Magsafe connector just like the MacBook, so that you don't have to carry a second charger and perhaps could charge faster. I assume it was an aesthetic choice.

I hope there will be third party watch faces. I'd like a Heuer "Monaco" face.

Red, does your Gearfit reliably measure your heart rate during hard exercise? I've heard the wrist optical sensors have a hard time with that. Also, does it have to be positioned precisely on your wrist to read HR?

3 days battery life would be barely tolerable. To me.

Any of these watches, Apple included, will use an optical sensor for measuring heart rate. This is what those finger tip things do in the hospital. The HR measurement is pretty good. It will check it periodically (a few times a minute), I'm guessing to save battery life.

As far as 3 days of battery, that is DARN GOOD! Some of the watches last 12 hours! The Sony SW2 lasts 3 days minimum. In low drain mode, 5-7 days. I usually get 3-5 days before my Gearfit will remind me to charge it. It was at 12% this morning when I was reminded, good for another 8 hours if needed.

One thing that the Apple and the Sony SW2 have is NFC, which can be used for payments, etc. The bad thing is that a stolen watch can be used to pay for things!!! Credit cards have your name on them!

I am not knocking the Apple watch. I'm simply putting out there what the competition can do. And what it needs to match or beat.

It will compete. People will pay a Premium for Apple products, even if they are technically inferior. It took a long time for the Apple iPhone to match what my Palm Treo could do, several years before. Apple does stylish better than the competition.

[enzo1]

I read somewhere that the watch has sensors that can tell when you put it on, then it asks for a code number.... which is erased when you take it off

[enzo1]

Over 10 million sold in 3 days.... stock flat

[enzo1]

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[Noah930]

Originally Posted by enzo1

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Doesn't just about everyone with an iPhone already have it in some sort of protective case? Doesn't that make the bendability of the 6 a moot point?

[enzo1]

iPhone 6 chip orders to remain high in 1Q15, say sources

[enzo1]

iPhone 6 pre-orders in China reach 20 million, says report

[enzo1]

Here are the numbers:

Revenue: $42.123 billion, up 12.4%
EPS: $1.42 per share, up 20.3%
iPhone: 39.272 million, up 16.2%
iPad: 12.316 million, down 12.5%
Mac: 5.52 million, up 20.7%
iPod: 2.62 million, down 25.1%
iTunes: $4.208 billion, up 8.2%
Accessories: $1.486 billion, up 12.7%

[techweenie]

I can't tell you how cool it is to have been involved in the launch of a company that grew to this level.

[sugarwood]

Fascinating! Can you tell the story about your work with AAPL back in the early days?

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Fascinating! Can you tell the story about your work with AAPL back in the early days?

Long story. The Steves came to the ad agency I worked at - to plead for us to take their business - and respectively pissed off/mystified the other folks in the room, but I saw something in Jobs that impressed me and I said 'I'll take them.' My team developed the logo, the brand character a brochure and an ad. Jobs wore everyone else out. When I left the agency 7 months later, I freelanced at two startups: Apple and Automotion. I worked directly with Jobs and remained friendly with him for about 20 years until I told him something he didn't want to hear. It may be covered in a new documentary being developed. And I'm co-writing a book about Apple marketing covering the first 30+ years.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by techweenie

..... I worked directly with Jobs and remained friendly with him for about 20 years until I told him something he didn't want to hear. It may be covered in a new documentary being developed. And I'm co-writing a book about Apple marketing covering the first 30+ years.

Fascinating....be sure to let us know more! BTW, did you take that pic of Jobs? And we want DETAILS man...just what did you tell Jobs ? ....but I can wait on the book if it's gonna be in there

[techweenie]

Quote de techweenie

..... I worked directly with Jobs and remained friendly with him for about 20 years until I told him something he didn't want to hear. It may be covered in a new documentary being developed. And I'm co-writing a book about Apple marketing covering the first 30+ years.

Fascinating....be sure to let us know more! BTW, did you take that pic of Jobs? And we want DETAILS man...just what did you tell Jobs ? ....but I can wait on the book if it's gonna be in there

Yes, I took the photo along with a few others on May 1977. Several publications have licensed it. Yeah, the rest of the story will come out. It's a big part of the book.

[creaturecat]

TW, you gotta have some great stories, no doubt.