Guy trying to sell a P motor on Pawn Stars, almost gets worked....

[Scott R]

No head tattoo, he used to have a weird monster movie show.

[db_cooper]

Originally Posted by Icemaster

Meanwhile.....back at the ranch....

Guys pretty lippy. Would have been interesting to see what would have been said if there weren't any cameras present.

It was all staged and scripted.

[rick-l]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

A gallon of gas has approximately 114,000 BTUs of stored energy in it.

it isn't energy till you figure out how to burn it.

[962]

You could make a Coffee Table out of it .

[Josh D]

Originally Posted by db_cooper

Well, no..

When I first attended Porsche technical training early in instruction it was all about vocabulary and usage. The psychology is if you use "tear it down", "throw it back together", "motor" rather than engine, etc. you were mentally setting yourself up to do sloppy work.

For those who could not change their vocabulary the results were obvious. They talked like and were in fact pretty mediocre technicians.

Porsche's definition was very clear..Motors were devices that took existing energy and converted it to motion..like electrical or vacuum motors.


Engines took fuel and converted it via management systems into motion.

You would not use the language a "windshield wiper engine", "cruise control engine" and a "3.2 flat six motor". It is just pedestrian, not professional.


The Germans and Porsche were very exact in these matters. I think there is merit in the psychology to train a professional.

I don't watch PS much. When I do if Danny shows up to evaluate a automotive purchase, it can be painful. No tools, grease rags, compression gauge, flashlight or stethoscope. He points out any visual imperfections, listens to the "motor" and if it is clean or painted and not knocking..it is a great "motor". Never on his back under the car or taking any chance of getting his hands dirty and knocking his bandanna off. Drives the car around the block.."the transmission is great" or "the brakes need work". Not credible, he never pulled a dipstick.

Then the most amazing appraisal occurs, suddenly he is a automotive market expert too.

I understand PS is theater. They stage most of the deals, have the merchandise on site in advance and get the walk in "customers" to sign waivers and script the "sale" prior to video being made. But sloppy professional characters..the worst.

MM probably would give $200 for that crap Porsche engine. As a "core" it would have been worth that or more.

This terminology isn't exclusive to Porsche technician training. This was also emphasized when I was going to school for aviation technology. But, growing up in my step dad's machine shop where we built "motors", the old habit is hard to break!

[OsoMoore]

Semantics are great! What's up with a "motorcycle?" In the end, the English language is all over the map on usage. I grew up with electric motors and gas engines, so I've always associated engines with combustion and motors with electricity. And then again, a speedboat has an "outboard motor."

As long as we understand each other it will work out.

[db_cooper]

This terminology isn't exclusive to Porsche technician training. This was also emphasized when I was going to school for avaition technology

Yep...you don't want an Elvis impersonator or TV monster B movie host working on your airplane "motor"

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[Bill in OKC]

Maybe one of those German-to-English translation things

Daten & Ausstattung - 911 Carrera S - 911 Übersicht - Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

That was funny as hell. That engine looked like a worn out, neglected POS, and the mechanic called it perfectly. He exercised GREAT restraint!

That was the best call. That engine was certainly neglected.
The mechanic suggested opening it up. If the owner was genuine he should have been OK with that.

It amazes me what people will buy and what they pass on. Why buy junk?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by db_cooper

It was all staged and scripted.

Agree.

When I say the show where the fat people repossess cars there was a scene where one of the guys getting his car repossessed was punched by the muscle dude. I frame advanced it and it was a routine movie punch. Nuttin at all - air.

[Esel Mann]

Definitely scripted. The mechanic forgot to check the Fetzer valve.

[sc_rufctr]

Of course it's scripted. Like 99% of everything on TV.

Pawn Stars is enjoyable because of the unusual stuff that gets brought in.
Remember that rare working cannon???

Hardcore Pawn is the worst. The customers who demand that they buy their stuff are the most obvious. It's like an old Jerry Springer show with hair oil

[db_cooper]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Agree.

When I say the show where the fat people repossess cars there was a scene where one of the guys getting his car repossessed was punched by the muscle dude. I frame advanced it and it was a routine movie punch. Nuttin at all - air.

Most reality shows are all done for entertainment and are total theater. I guess its where the very unattractive actors and actresses go for a TV job when they need to lose weight.

History Channel’s Pawn Stars is Fake | centraltendencies.com

[not_hans_stuck]

Pawn Stores is for people who can't use eBay. I love how everyone gets ripped off. Hey, my specialist in antique euphoniums says yours is worth $4000. I'll give you $80 for it. Uh, OK.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Esel Mann

The mechanic forgot to check the Fetzer valve.

Believe you mean the kermit palzer diaphragm given it's a water pumper.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by db_cooper

Well, no..

When I first attended Porsche technical training early in instruction it was all about vocabulary and usage. The psychology is if you use "tear it down", "throw it back together", "motor" rather than engine, etc. you were mentally setting yourself up to do sloppy work.

For those who could not change their vocabulary the results were obvious. They talked like and were in fact pretty mediocre technicians.

Porsche's definition was very clear..Motors were devices that took existing energy and converted it to motion..like electrical or vacuum motors.


Engines took fuel and converted it via management systems into motion.

You would not use the language a "windshield wiper engine", "cruise control engine" and a "3.2 flat six motor". It is just pedestrian, not professional.


The Germans and Porsche were very exact in these matters. I think there is merit in the psychology to train a professional.

I don't watch PS much. When I do if Danny shows up to evaluate a automotive purchase, it can be painful. No tools, grease rags, compression gauge, flashlight or stethoscope. He points out any visual imperfections, listens to the "motor" and if it is clean or painted and not knocking..it is a great "motor". Never on his back under the car or taking any chance of getting his hands dirty and knocking his bandanna off. Drives the car around the block.."the transmission is great" or "the brakes need work". Not credible, he never pulled a dipstick.

Then the most amazing appraisal occurs, suddenly he is a automotive market expert too.

I understand PS is theater. They stage most of the deals, have the merchandise on site in advance and get the walk in "customers" to sign waivers and script the "sale" prior to video being made. But sloppy professional characters..the worst.

MM probably would give $200 for that crap Porsche engine. As a "core" it would have been worth that or more.

in my next life, perhaps, i'll be a porsche trained mechanic. those are cool pics and documents. cheers!

[Rick Lee]

"Now, I'm gonna need some gauze pads and a set of 30 wt. ball bearings."

[nynor]

i watched the video.... how much did the seller want out of the engine?

[VaSteve]

In those scenes where Rick is sitting in the "back room" in front of 3 guitars.....how come they are stored on their side? how come they never sell? Don't they get dusty?

I like the show, it's fantasy. "I've had this rare thing in my family for 3 generations....I have decided that Today is The Day I'm going to sell it....and buy a nice meal." WTF?

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by db_cooper

Well, no..

When I first attended Porsche technical training early in instruction it was all about vocabulary and usage. The psychology is if you use "tear it down", "throw it back together", "motor" rather than engine, etc. you were mentally setting yourself up to do sloppy work.