All of a sudden I worry about ageism

[Jim Bremner]

Originally Posted by Cannonball996

I dont hire anyone full time, I dont hire anyone over 40.

I'm not sure that I would have that in print!

[flatbutt]

I'm 60, have a Baccalaureate in Chemistry, 35 years experience, professional certification in Regulatory Affairs, have had as many as 40 direct reports and a monthly budget of more than $750K. And yet I can't get the Directors title. ALL of the Directors in my dept. are at least 15 years younger than me.

You tell me.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I'm 60, have a Baccalaureate in Chemistry, 35 years experience, professional certification in Regulatory Affairs, have had as many as 40 direct reports and a monthly budget of more than $750K. And yet I can't get the Directors title. ALL of the Directors in my dept. are at least 15 years younger than me.

You tell me.

Hair club for men?

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Jim Bremner

I'm not sure that I would have that in print!

Zackly. In the eyes of the law that's no different than saying "I don't hire anyone who's skin color is _________".

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Jim Bremner

At age 35 I was told that "We hired X guy becouse he's younger and cooler than you"

Sadly I'm 46 and shutting down my biz and and looking for work when in the past I would turn down offers 3-4 times a year.

Anyone need a purchasing agent or Sales rep in So Cal?

Jim

I'll keep my ears open, there's a possibility something on the purchasing side might open up here in the next year or two.

[jyl]

There is no question that after 40 y/o or so, your age becomes a negative factor in the eyes of potential employers in many, although not all, fields and positions. The lower-level the position, the greater the risk of this.

I've read this is one reason why men are (supposedly) increasingly using hair coloring, cosmetics, facial aesthetics - because how old you look and sound and act makes a big difference. Being fit and trim is (supposedly) a greater focus for the same reason. I say (supposedly) because I'm reading this in popular press, not necessarily high-credibility sources.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I'm 60, have a Baccalaureate in Chemistry, 35 years experience, professional certification in Regulatory Affairs, have had as many as 40 direct reports and a monthly budget of more than $750K. And yet I can't get the Directors title. ALL of the Directors in my dept. are at least 15 years younger than me.

You tell me.

Because they have MBAs, not Chemistry degrees.

[Jim Bremner]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

I'll keep my ears open, there's a possibility something on the purchasing side might open up here in the next year or two.

Sammy!

Thank you!

Right now I have 3 soft offers for 3-6 months out. Too bad I just moved into a new house last year and spent some good money making it work for my wife.

Care to pm me some details?

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

Zackly. In the eyes of the law that's no different than saying "I don't hire anyone who's skin color is _________".

Kinda funny huh (not funny ha ha)?

We have a list as long as your arm of things we can't discriminate against... but age apparently is not on the list.

[Jim Sims]

Age Discrimination

It appears a business with fewer than 20 employees is exempt unless there is a more strict state law.

[cantdrv55]

Originally Posted by SeanPizzle

Youth may have energy, but we have experience, rolodex's and treachery on our side.

I love this

[cantdrv55]

Originally Posted by jyl

There is no question that after 40 y/o or so, your age becomes a negative factor in the eyes of potential employers in many, although not all, fields and positions. The lower-level the position, the greater the risk of this.

I've read this is one reason why men are (supposedly) increasingly using hair coloring, cosmetics, facial aesthetics - because how old you look and sound and act makes a big difference. Being fit and trim is (supposedly) a greater focus for the same reason. I say (supposedly) because I'm reading this in popular press, not necessarily high-credibility sources.

I was actually thinking of coloring the gray out. Not much I can do about the receding hairline though. Another reason why I signed up for the 2013 weight loss thread.

[cantdrv55]

Originally Posted by vash

if it happens..teach them "rageism"!

Lol

[jyl]

I get a color rinse, or color blend, not sure what its called, with my hair cut.

Quote de jyl

There is no question that after 40 y/o or so, your age becomes a negative factor in the eyes of potential employers in many, although not all, fields and positions. The lower-level the position, the greater the risk of this.



I've read this is one reason why men are (supposedly) increasingly using hair coloring, cosmetics, facial aesthetics - because how old you look and sound and act makes a big difference. Being fit and trim is (supposedly) a greater focus for the same reason. I say (supposedly) because I'm reading this in popular press, not necessarily high-credibility sources.

I was actually thinking of coloring the gray out. Not much I can do about the receding hairline though. Another reason why I signed up for the 2013 weight loss thread.

[genrex]

My girlfriend calls it a "rinse." Looks great. She gets one when she gets her hair cut, and between haircuts she does it herself at home (buys the box at Rite Aid drugstore).

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[Bill Douglas]

My story [img]reallyfingsadface[/img]...

I'm 53 now and about seven years ago I got layed off from my computer tech job. I had between 20 and 30 job interviews but no joy. And what really annoyed me was they would say "Actually... You were our number two. We really liked you but..." or "You interviewed well but we were surprised by the high caliber or the applicants and..." AND grrr, I even had one at a bank I worked for years ago and the boss of the area was a "school boy" I hired. Cheeky prick didn't even send me a letter to say no. My GF was going nuts at me saying to get a job stocking shelves at Bunnings (same as Home Depot) but why would they hire me when there are hundreds of 18 to 22 year old dying to get the job.

I survived by putting on a suit at lunchtime, pretending to have a job, and going into my old branch of the bank and taking out big loans. We would chat about Unilever (where I used to work) and "how's Michael, how's Sue." etc while I was sweating bullets thinking I might be found out. I had to sign forms that said "Is there any reason why you don't fit the loan criteria" etc. Phew I owed the bank nearly a million dollars and had no job, and was borrowing more.

[tevake]

Bill I'm not sure weather to be laughing or crying for you bro, say you were joking.
Or we may have to start gathering funds for your bankers.

Cheers Richard

[Bill Douglas]

Not joking. It was a bit scary

[tevake]

WOW! Bill, I went off think of you sitting you that chair of yours, looking out the window at the break out front (knowing you should be out there chasing a few) but really working on a screen play for American TV, titled America, the lost dream or something like that.
On the other hand WOW glad you got through it OK.

Cheers Richard

[Bill Douglas]

LOL, thanks Richard. I got through it just fine. Umm, I still haven't got a job though (self employed renovating).

I've got a few waves over the last month. Plus a lot of stand up paddleboarding. I even paddle boarded down a river. Please note: I don't recommend this and are still sore a month later hehe.

Here's me taking a young buddy Lauren for a paddle in Nelson.