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			13 years ago, I left a prior employer in the Motion Picture and Television Industry, a sort of trade association, but mainly the collective bargaining entity that negotiates the Union contracts for the various unions in Hollywood.  I was there for four years.  I left under what they call in the Industry "Creative Differences".  The vesting requirement for any pension benefits is five years; I was there for four years.  I figured I wouldn't get anything being there only four years.  So I didn't give it another thought.   
		
	
		
	
			
				A well versed friend in the Industry encouraged me recently to contact them as I was an "Executive" and thus might have accrued hours under a special agreement that allowed me to accrue vesting at 125% of hours worked. I did and it turns out, upon review, that I met the five year vesting with 40 hours to spare. So I appealed and today I got a letter saying that upon retirement I'll get $323.49/month for life, plus a lump sum of $45,xxx. It may go up from there. Not a lot, but its beer money, or about 80 gallons of gas in the new Class A motor home per month for life. Not a game changer, but I'll take it gladly. 
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			That's great, Hugh!  You've inspired me to look into a trade union I belonged to  back when I was a grocery clerk.  I paid plenty of dues, maybe there is a little pension waiting for me, too! 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			If you ever get back to Portland, I'll buy the second round! 
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			Hugh, that's worth over $100K. What world do you live in where that's not much, or just beer money?
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Congratulations, Hugh.  Now whatever you do, don't go and die until you've spent it!!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			$45K as a lump sum, $323.49 x 12 months/year = about $3,900/year x 20 years is $77,XXX. You are correct its easily over $125,000 in current dollars over the rest of my life.  I don't mean to trivialize it.  Its a nice surprise.  My current projection is to retire with around $120,000 or better per year.  With the monthly pension from this and a modest withdraw of the supplemental  fund it might add $5,000 per year.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Hugh that's fantastic! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. JYL has it right. Some serious Karma there, my friend. 
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			Well, Hugh, the guy right down the street from me has a Rudge army courier prototype motorcycle -- one of one in the world --- and I think $45K would just about buy it. Nice coincidence! 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			For $45K I'd sell my Rudge.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			If you change you mind and don't want it, I got dibs!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			It'd be a game changer to me...  Congrats!
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
				
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