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All I know is that each and every time I turn the faucet I want the lights to come on!

Old 08-24-2013, 06:56 AM
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Bob, you need to hire the three stooges as your plumbers.

Oops, actually I think they got it the other way around. Turn on the lights and the chandelier becomes a sprinkler.
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Everyone who [thinks just] having some petroleum engineering hours to my credit as well as field experience [means that they understand the risks and env'l hazards, or even the benefits should just piss off as they are woefully ignorant].

All aquifers and subterranean water zones are [SUPPOSED TO BE] isolated via the wellbore being cased with steel pipe and encapsulated in concrete. The fracking fluids are injected only into petroleum bearing formations. [But of course can migrate elsewhere.]

Another problem is DISPOSAL of fracking fluids.

[Another problem is that regulation is by states, not by the feds. States can easily be rolled over by powerful economic interests. Of all the states that bend over for industry, Texas may be worst.] In Texas the Railroad Commission [claims they] guard ground water supplies and insures that petroleum exploration does not cause contamination in any water supplies. The reality is much much worse.

We can continue to develop recovery methods for domestic assets or we can continue to fight, finance and generally continue towards economic [trouble] by being dependent on foreign sources of petroleum.
Last paragraph is true. I fixed the rest of it.

One more time: Fracking is a good way to get at NG if and only if it does right.

NG is an excellent intermediate term energy source (beats the H. out of coal) while we develop other energy sources, like PV Solar.
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Someone please buy my book!!' For God sake BUY THE BOOK!

In lieu of buying your book I have purchased offsets and planted them in my yard. Anytime, really! No problemo!
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Yay cesium



And some of it is radioactive too.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:18 AM
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In lieu of buying your book I have purchased offsets and planted them in my yard. Anytime, really! No problemo!
Humpf! Well then, I guess I was told!
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:29 AM
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Sodium v. Sodium Chloride - each react very different in water...
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Cesium metal and ionic cesium are totally different animals. The later which is used in fracking fluids does not react with water (since it already is in the oxidised state). Basic chemistry my friend...As for the radioactive isotopes, of course they are not used in the fluids.
Ya, just sayin I wouldn't want to work in the factory that makes it.
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but just think...if you buy my book and compare it to that article you will find complete agreement! And the data to prove it!!! And you will help contribute to my kids college fund!!!! And you will be considered really cool by me!!!!! And it will look great on your desk!!!!!
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Like it? I actually designed it! Yup, draw the wells and frack play in PowerPoint, put a cool background on it. Seriously.

I guess this means I'm a narsisis like cockerpunk and Shumi? Hmmmmm, good company anyways...

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Gee, that Oliver Rudd guy must have been so excited to have been able to work with a man of your stature.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:18 PM
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Hey, let me shove this up yer butt, down your throat, stick crap on yer land, inject stuff down belowground and pull stuff out, if the land collapses, water gets crappy, yer wife kicks out a two headed kid or it looks like Sammy or ZMan....if'n it screws ya up, ain't my fault.

So.....who protects you? Just a question from someone who actually DID protect people for 30 years........

Screwing with the environment w/o doing your homework for a check?

Cry me a river, wankers......
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Why are there any chemicals needed at all? If its hydraulic pressure splitting the earth to release trapped o/g, why does a chemical work any better than sea water (as an example)?
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Flieger you have no idea....really, you have no idea.
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gsxrken, over 90% is water but other things are required to get the most bang for your buck. The recipe changes from play to play depending on the geology. Even the proppants differ. It is a very well kept secret as to the exact nature and concentrations but in actuallity pretty much all the chemicals used are fairly common - most you have under your sink in one form or fashion...
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Why are there any chemicals needed at all? If its hydraulic pressure splitting the earth to release trapped o/g, why does a chemical work any better than sea water (as an example)?
Water alone reacts with some of the minerals and such at that depth, and creates cement. The other chemicals are used to keep everything liquid and dissolved. If done wrong, the perforations in the wellbore will seal up solid, and require repeated perforating, which wastes time and money.

People need to know that at 10k feet depth, we're working with an environment that is over 200 degrees and several thousand PSI. Normal things like water and simple chemicals react quite differently at those non-laboratory environments. Deep wells (not fraking wells, but deep Gulf of Mexico wells) are over 450 degrees and 25K-30K PSI. Imagine the chemistry at the bottom of THAT well...

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