Mikhail Kalashnikov dead.

[HardDrive]

Mikhail Kalashnikov, dead at age 94. Hard to imagine how many copies of his design have been made over the years. I own a Norinco MAK-90 (Chinese Type 56).

BBC News - AK47 assault rifle inventor Kalashnikov dies at 94

[jyl]

Does he go to Heaven, or to Hell?

[GG Allin]

Originally Posted by jyl

Does he go to Heaven, or to Hell?

Neither, but the worms will get 'im.

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by jyl

Does he go to Heaven, or to Hell?

Kalashnikov was asked to develop a weapon to defend his motherland after watching millions of his fellow citizens slaughtered by the Germans. He had zero control over the design once it was accepted by the Russian army. He himself commented that it pained him to hear of his weapon being used by criminals or child soliders.

[jyl]

Same question for John Browning, John Thompson, Paul and Wilhelm Mauser, Eugene Stoner, Samuel Colt, and so on.

History makes it clear that a weapon, once developed, is always used for more than its initial purpose. Thus when, let's say, John Browning designed his guns, in addition to knowing they would be used for killing massive numbers of people, he knew that they would be used for killing the innocent as well as the guilty, regardless of how those classes are defined.

Does a person who voluntarily creates a machine designed and intended to kill the innocent as well as the guilty, in mass numbers, go to Heaven, or to Hell, or does St Peter consider that act unimportant and instead open or close the Gates based on whether John Browning, Mikhail Kalashnikov, etc went to church on Sundays?

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by jyl

Same question for John Browning, John Thompson, Paul and Wilhelm Mauser, Eugene Stoner, Samuel Colt, and so on.

History makes it clear that a weapon, once developed, is always used for more than its initial purpose. Thus when, let's say, John Browning designed his guns, in addition to knowing they would be used for killing massive numbers of people, he knew that they would be used for killing the innocent as well as the guilty, regardless of how those classes are defined.

Does a person who voluntarily creates a machine designed and intended to kill the innocent as well as the guilty, in mass numbers, go to Heaven, or to Hell, or does St Peter consider that act unimportant and instead open or close the Gates based on whether John Browning, Mikhail Kalashnikov, etc went to church on Sundays?

I don't believe in heaven or hell. If one looks at his life from a secular, karmic standpoint, he does not seem to have suffered in this life for his actions.

[HHI944]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Kalashnikov was asked to develop a weapon to defend his motherland after watching millions of his fellow citizens slaughtered by the Germans. He had zero control over the design once it was accepted by the Russian army. He himself commented that it pained him to hear of his weapon being used by criminals or child soliders.

Of course, this is the same Stalin-led government that kill an confirmed 3 million of his fellow countrymen

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by jyl

Does he go to Heaven, or to Hell?

We are all sinners.
The only way any of us gets to heaven is through forgiveness.

[flatbutt]

I'll never understand how any weapons manufacturer/ inventor can claim to be shocked when people end up being killed by their weapon. The Manhattan project scientists come to mind.

[jyl]

Are we?

Look at yourself. How much sin have you committed, really? I look at my own life, and don't come up with much sin on my record. And there is always the example of the 1 day old infant, what sin has he committed?

Quote de jyl

Does he go to Heaven, or to Hell?

We are all sinners.

The only way any of us gets to heaven is through forgiveness.

[Jeff Higgins]

The designer of arguably the very best military implement in the history of mankind dies, and now we have someone who clearly neither understands nor accepts God's word asking if this man will go to heaven or hell? Only on PPOT.

Kalashnikov's story is a fascinating one. His rifle is the work of pure genius. He has certainly earned his place in history. By whom and for what his rifle was used (and continues to be used) stands as a testament to the man and his design, regardless of the politics involved. It's really too bad he was on the "other" side, both at a personal level for the man himself, and for the forces of "good" in this world.

[VINMAN]

Mikhail Kalashnikov died?

What a shame, he was a great dancer....



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[Tobra]

JYL, are you really that clueless about this stuff? No, just trolling, that is what I thought.

Mr K was really quite a guy

[ODDJOB UNO]

OLIVER WINCHESTERS house is HAUNTED! i swear to it!

see winchester house wiki look it up.


and theres a bunch of indians and buffalos pissed off at him!