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it's true...many aspire to be Spock...and not the Spock leaning on a Riviera...
I wanted to be Scotty..

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Old 01-08-2014, 02:41 PM
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Are most of you forgetting that the best part of Porsche are the engineers and engineering genius that went into them?!

Seriously, I am an engineer and do not introduce myself that way. However, when I work with engineers at engineering firms they almost demand to know that you too are an engineer. Since I am in sales, and most engineers are horrible salespeople, they assume I am not.....funny.

Engineering school is very hard for most and respect is earned upon graduation. Just as I respect anyone for accomplishing something difficult I guess.
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Old 01-08-2014, 04:04 PM
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That's funny...Normally, when I work on my 930 I have to ask, "Who the "F" engineered this POS??" Obviously, not a mechanic.

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Wow, reading the first page or 2 I think I might be the only engineer who went through college without a drink.

I would most definitely say I am socially awkward. Engineers are about the only people I can really relate to, although I can get along well with almost anyone who is a classic car enthusiast.

After 4 (5 in my case) years of tough classes and hard work you really form a bond with your fellow engineers. If you aren't in the club then you are not as good- just like most clubs' attitudes.
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That was a walk in the park compared to the crap my Calc II Prof used to give us...

Funny thing... I had reason to look through my old note books etc awhile ago.. I found some tests and at home projects from my DiffEq class....

LaPlace.Lagrange, Fourier.....My note books and test look like they are written in a foreign language... I did well in Diiff Eqs...

No idea how
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Laplace is your friend.
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You ever hear the joke about the plane crash where the co-pilot was Polish?
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Lol

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Just watching a business major try to figure out an HP-70!
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That was a walk in the park compared to the crap my Calc II Prof used to give us...

Funny thing... I had reason to look through my old note books etc awhile ago.. I found some tests and at home projects from my DiffEq class....

LaPlace.Lagrange, Fourier.....My note books and test look like they are written in a foreign language... I did well in Diiff Eqs...

No idea how
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I'm going to have to pour myself another drink now. All things that I've tried to forget. Bastards.
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Uh oh! Both examples are after a 4 year undergrad degree!

Not everywhere in the world.
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Oh yeah, the "engineering hot" is entirely 100% true. However, there were a couple girls in my class that would have had high scores in the wild, which made them all the more awesome.

But generally it seemed that the Ag Business majors were the hottest. I have no idea why.
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Interesting thread.

Technically, if you complete that 4-5 year degree and pass the EIT exam, you're only an "engineer-in-training". You need another 5+ years of appropriately-supervised experience and proven proficiency and then take/pass a PE exam in your discipline before you are a licensed professional engineer. Most states have laws (that are generally ignored) that say only those who are licensed may titled as "engineer".

I'm an ME (tier 1 by the previously posted taxonomy, 20+ years across heavy machine design / nuclear / aerospace / semiconductor) and have earned my professional license. I consider myself fortunate to have been mentored by several "old-school" ME's when I was an EIT. A few observations/conclusions that I have at this point in my career:

- I find most "arrogant" engineers are new in their field. I don't necessarily see this arrogance as a sign of the profession as much as a sign of youth. I see arrogance as evenly-spread across most young professionals.

- I often run across "engineers" in industry who have been falsely titled; many don't have the expertise or education to carry the title. Some have been promoted to the title after completing years of technician-level work in their company. I have met several of these people who truly are arrogant (and in some cases dangerous in their practice of engineering). Fortunately, almost all of these cases required oversight of a PE who had final design authority.

- In my opinion, younger business-oriented managers mistake confidence portrayed by older, experienced engineers (or technically-oriented people for that matter) as arrogance. (Those in business who won't believe anything until they experience it first-hand often do the same.)

- Engineers, by nature and training, generally look to learn from the experiences and mistakes of others when solving problems. Others who insist on being "experiential learners" often classify engineers as arrogant.
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We've got a guy here in OT, a "systems engineer" (AND farmer!!) in PARF and good ol' sammy who I think is an engineer.

They all act crazy and think they know everything. What is up with that? It's only a 4 year degree.
What I find amazing about this thread is that the OP has been banned at least three times for not playing nice in the sand box in PARF in his short time being here and now he is running down two of our long time posters pretty much by name and alluding to them and other engineers as being "arrogant". Yet you all seem to miss that and prattle on about engineers in general.
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Good point, Hugh. I wasn't aware of his previous history (and avoid PARF). That first post sounded just like all the "stuff" I've become conditioned to tolerate from others...
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Because it is more fun to ignore the poopyheads and just reminisce about engineering school.
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Interesting thread.

Technically, if you complete that 4-5 year degree and pass the EIT exam, you're only an "engineer-in-training". You need another 5+ years of appropriately-supervised experience and proven proficiency and then take/pass a PE exam in your discipline before you are a licensed professional engineer. Most states have laws (that are generally ignored) that say only those who are licensed may titled as "engineer".
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Nonetheless... an MD will do a residency for some years - many if in a speciality, or sub-sub-sub-speciality. Also has to pass boards.

A scientist will do a post-doc for several years.

Even a lowly attorney will have to pass the bar and then work thru being an assoicate, etc.

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