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Tesla affect on purchasing older 911

First off, I'm not in the market for a Tesla. I am in the market for an earlier 911 up to an 83 SC. I'm new to 911's, but not new to working on cars. Wrenching on older cars is like zen meditation to me. recently my job has presented new challenges… which are great…lucky to have a job I love... but I need some me time. So I am searching for a 911 project that fits me.


So the question that lingers in my head is… do others find themselves thinking abut the eventual evolution of vehicle transportation when purchasing a car? My heart, which I will follow, says just get the car you love and enjoy making it my own! My buy and hold investment philosophy, makes me wonder if I should enter with an exit plan….? I can mentally justify the expense if my purchase went to zero one day based on the experience, but the analytical side says letting this happen would be poor planning.

And yes, the answer to your questions is I over think things : ) And hopefully my next post will be pictures of my new to me 911SC!

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Yep, the "the eventual evolution of vehicle transportation" has more to do with ever-changing govt regulations than anything else. Car design (among other design) is on the trajectory of the Dixie-cup. You are smart to find yourself tough old 911SC.

Nice first post, btw.
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In short- yes.

9 times out of 10 I took one of the other cars. A 911 is BUTCH. Driving one all the time will rip you up.

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Owning a car by desire is analytically irrational. The ROI is not on the financial aspects, but the time spent with hobby and the happiness of the soul that it brings. Lying on your death bed, if the memories of owning a 911 will bring a smile to your face, then who cares if you lost your shirt on the price of the car. In the end, you can't take it with you. And your kids should be happy to know that your lived your life to the fullest and enjoyed it immensely.

If all of this somehow relates to a monetary value, I think you're doing something wrong.

ALL IMHO.
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My wife has actually suggested I sell my old 85 911 and get a new Cayman. A Cayman is orders of magnitude faster and safer.

I told her that would pretty much end my real hobby of tinkering in the garage. I enjoy my time in the garage but I do admit as I get older some of the fun has diminished.
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Owning a car by desire is analytically irrational. The ROI is not on the financial aspects, but the time spent with hobby and the happiness of the soul that it brings. Lying on your death bed, if the memories of owning a 911 will bring a smile to your face, then who cares if you lost your shirt on the price of the car. In the end, you can't take it with you. And your kids should be happy to know that your lived your life to the fullest and enjoyed it immensely.

If all of this somehow relates to a monetary value, I think you're doing something wrong.

ALL IMHO.
This. Buy it for the fun and experience. If you are concerned about the investment potential (or lack thereof), then you are probably not going to be happy. With that said, the 911SC isn't going to be worth any less money 5-10 years from now, and based on current trends it will probably be worth quite a bit more. The internal combustion engine isn't going anywhere either, electric cars are still generally speaking an expensive and impractical pipe dream.
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A Cayman is orders of magnitude faster and safer.
Neither of these things interests me, YMMV. My older car is fast enough to kill me, and fast enough to let me lose my license if I'm not careful. And airbags/crumple zones etc aren't even on my 'must have list'. Or even my 'might want' list.

Buy a car you love to drive.
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My wife has actually suggested I sell my old 85 911 and get a new Cayman. A Cayman is orders of magnitude faster and safer.
Would this be a good time to let her know that she can be replaced with a new model as well
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Neither of these things interests me, YMMV. My older car is fast enough to kill me, and fast enough to let me lose my license if I'm not careful. And airbags/crumple zones etc aren't even on my 'must have list'. Or even my 'might want' list.

Buy a car you love to drive.
That is why I have the same 85 911 for the last 18.5 years.
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Would this be a good time to let her know that she can be replaced with a new model as well
Oh hell no. I don't want to try to train some young chick. I will stick with my current wife till death do us part.
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.. A Cayman is orders of magnitude faster and safer. ....
must make a Carerra GT safest of all....

"orders of magnitude"? ...hyperbole?

"Incrementally faster" and "easier to drive fast" would be about right.
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"Incrementally faster"
Hell yes, by several orders of magnitude. You nailed it.
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I am in the market for an earlier 911 up to an 83 SC.
Why are you explicitly ruling out a Carrera 3.2?
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Gas powered cars are going nowhere in this lifetime.
Electric cars are like Segues. The other 99% will drive gas cars.
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Gas powered cars are going nowhere in this lifetime.
Electric cars are like Segues. The other 99% will drive gas cars.
Gasoline powered cars are going to fade away as supply shrinks (or the oil sources get harder to refine) and demand for fuel rises. Diesels and natural gas/propane cars will become more common, along with other alternative fuels like good old veggie oil. Electrics will slowly improve and become more mainstream (I already see a lot of Teslas around) but internal combustion will be around for a long, long time. Perhaps it will only be in the form of rotary or micro turbine range extenders, because batteries and hydrogen just don't have the energy density.
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Every classic 911 I've owned (Ok, I've only owned two but...) have grown in value since I owned them. It's one of the few cars you can buy, drive all you want, and get at least what you paid for. Being a handy guy, you shouldn't lose too much on repairs either. With other brands you have to basically store the car in the garage otherwise you end up selling for pennies on the dollar.
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My wife has actually suggested I sell my old 85 911 and get a new Cayman. A Cayman is orders of magnitude faster and safer.
My wife mistakenly mumbled something about a boxster (totally out of character for her, she could care less about cars and insist our next car needs to be a hybrid due to gas prices).

I immediacy twisted her words and joking with her said "What's that?!? A boxster?!? You know what... you are absolutly right! We should get a boxster!"

She just rolled her eyes and walked away...
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As to Feliegers remark

Folks what's happening in this county with oil will change the world we are exporting oil and natural gas for the first time in the history of the country Do a little research on Dakotas and southwest My opinion electric cars will not last their fuel is still carbon base supplied I spoke with a Tesala factory guy at our coffee and car a couple of weeks back he had a lot of good answers however on chargering and AC and heat operation he played dum. I am telling my age I remember the Jimmy Carter years well and trust me this is redux Barrak Hussen Obama . This all will pass my friends fossil fuel for those who unsure is a natural resource , think about it everything on this planet including the 911 . drive em if you got em
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The "Tesla Effect", if there is such a thing, will make old air cooled Portsches rise in value as people get tired of driving kitchen appliances and/ or oversized marital aids.
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If you looked at a Popular Science from 1975, we were all going to be driving in flying cars by the year 2000. Electric cars, much like flying cars, are a long ways from prime time.

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