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[id10t]

STOP PRESS: Barn finds for sale, license built Messerschmitt Me-109G - WAR HISTORY ONLINE

Pretty cool

[Rinty]

Wow.

[BigInJapan]

Not to thread jack...but I didn't feel like digging for the random video thread.

Not ME109 related (well, kind of), but WWII aero ralated...from France...

Lightning P38 & Corsair Display , La Ferte Alais , 19 may 2013 - YouTube

Just so elegant.

Ian

[nota]

Very cool thanks

[fred cook]

Weren't the original V12s mounted inverted with the heads at the bottom? The next time I watch the "Battle of Britain" movie I will look for these planes.

[Baz]

[Baz]

History: In 1942 the Spanish government arranged a manufacturing licence with Messerschmitt AG to build the Bf 109G-2, with DB605A engines, propellers, instruments, and weapons to be supplied from Germany. This proved impossible, as Germany was incapable of meeting her own needs, let alone Spain’s. Only twenty-five airframes (minus their tails) and not even half the necessary drawings were delivered.

Post World War II, production resumed on the Buchón’s and the final variant was the HA-1112-M1L Buchón. It first flew 29 March 1954. The 1112-M1L was equipped with the 1,600 hp Rolls-Royce Merlin 500-45 engine and Rotol propeller, both purchased as surplus from the UK. This engine had a chin intake, that altered the lines of the Bf 109′s airframe visually. Its armament consisted of two 20 mm Hispano-Suiza 404/408 cannons and two Oerlikon or Pilatus eight-packs of 80 mm rockets. It remained in service until 27 December 1965.

The HA-1112-M1L’s remained in flying condition until the mid-1960s. This made them available for theatrical use, masquerading as Bf 109′s in movies like The Battle of Britain. $800,000 – $1,100,000 and for sale here platinumfighters.com

These examples are HIspano Aviacion HA-1112 M1L’s.

These aircraft were last flown in the Battle Of Britain film in 1968.

Upon completion of the filming of the Battle Of Britain they were disassembled and shipped to Texas where they have been in storage for 45 years.

Location: Texas

Airframe:

4x Original, unrestored, undamaged airframes

Time capsule – barnfind

Last flown 1968 (Battle Of Britain film)

1x airframe licensed and flown in USA – N4109G

last flown 1973

Engine:

Rolls Royce Merlin 500 / 45

1,600 h.p.

Propeller:

Dowty Rotol

4 blade propeller

Aluminum blades

Spares:

These aircraft all come with a substantial spares package

[fastfredracing]

Super cool, hands down , the rolls royce merlin is my very favorite engine ever. I get mesmerized every time I go to the air and space museum , and cannot stop looking at it. I just want to take one apart, and put it back together.

[recycled sixtie]

Deep pockets needed to get those aircraft flying again. Also mechanics for those long engines are long in the tooth or gone now. I just love the sound of those old engines.....G.

[recycled sixtie]

Originally Posted by fastfredracing

Super cool, hands down , the rolls royce merlin is my very favorite engine ever. I get mesmerized every time I go to the air and space museum , and cannot stop looking at it. I just want to take one apart, and put it back together.

Thanks Fred for that. Really cool sound.Guy.

[gshase]

I know where they are. I have sat in them and have flown several of his other airplanes. After the movie The Battle of Britain when all flying had ended. My buddy was talking to a movie executive and he asked how much was a P-51..... How much was a Spitfire and how much was a 109. The executive said 12 K....14 K and 15 K which one do you want? Now you have to know this guy was a CAF member and was the chief pilot in the movie and was a rancher in Texas, ...... He said all of them.
His only son that did any flying was killed in a car wreck last year and I knew it was only time before he started selling things off.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by fastfredracing

Super cool, hands down , the rolls royce merlin is my very favorite engine ever. I get mesmerized every time I go to the air and space museum , and cannot stop looking at it. I just want to take one apart, and put it back together.

Dad during the mid 30's went to work for Packard as a Tool & Die Maker, during the war he worked on the RR Merlin's...I suspect they mostly went into P-51's. But he did mention that he worked on P-38's? There was an attempt to convert from the Allison to the RR Merlin in the P-38, but that was short lived. Also the PT Boats used 2 RR Merlins. Interesting stuff.

Also in the movie the B of B they used Spanish bought HE-111's bombers..I wonder what happened to those planes?

[J P Stein]

DB 601.
A Merlin in a 109 is like a Chevy in your Porsche. .......

[t6dpilot]

I too have seen that collection and it is amazing what he has. Looks like CE is selling everything off.

http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!inventory/c15ed

The Mustangs did not come by way of the movie. They are ex-Nicarauguan AF Mustangs that he and his brother bought and ferried back to TX. There were a total of six IIRC. They and some friends flew them up to OSH in as found condition for the annual airshow in July. Funny - they used plastic Schlitz beer cups as exhaust stack covers. When they fired up to head back to TX, they left the cups in there and when the engine fired up, it popped all the cups out to the ground. Caused a big laugh. Shortly after, his brother was killed in one of the Mustangs and he just parked them. Twenty something years later he decided to sell two to fund some business project. One went to a Swiss collector and one went to my father and a partner. That is Miss Marilyn today in Houston I think.

Sad to hear about his son. Good guy and a hell of a pilot. Soloed on his sixteenth birthday a bunch of airplanes - T6, Twin Beech, Super Cub, Stearman. I only met him once at one of our formation gatherings.

[Flat Six]

Originally Posted by tabs

Also the PT Boats used 2 RR Merlins.

Not to nit-pick, but I'd always thought PTs used V-12 Packards . . .

[Jolly Amaranto]

From Packard V12 Marine Engine

Contrary to popular belief the Packard V12 4M-2500 marine petrol engine did not start it's life as a licence built US made copy of the British Rolls Royce Merlin engine, this has been pointed out to me by various people and the historical evidence proves this, the Packard V12 1M 2500 engine was used extensively by Garr Wood in his world record holding speed boats of the 1930's and the licence built Merlins were not produced by Packard until well into the war years.

[GWN7]

The Elco boats were the largest PT boats operated by the U.S. Navy during World War II. At 80 feet (24 m) and 40 tons, they had strong wooden hulls of two layers of 1-inch (2.5 cm) mahogany planking. Powered by three 12-cylinder 1,500 horsepower (1,100 kW) Packard gasoline engines (one per propeller shaft), their designed top speed was 41 knots (76 km/h).

From PT 109

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by fred cook

Weren't the original V12s mounted inverted with the heads at the bottom? The next time I watch the "Battle of Britain" movie I will look for these planes.

I believe this is true, they were also fuel injected, if I recall correctly.

[tevake]

That is a really cool offering!
But if you want to shop a little closer to home and don't fly, or need a P T boat, this tank auction may just fit the bill for you.
Military tanks to be auctioned in California

Cheers Richard

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Amazing - if I only had a spare $800k sitting around (plus a little resto money) I'd be all over that. Simply incredible stuff. I hope they go to someone (or a museum) that will appreciate and actually use them. I was thinking the a Museum of Flying in SMO to complement their Zero (last flying one iirc - back in my flight instructing days I chatted with the guy who supposedly ferried it there and pranged the prop, wrecking the original Mitsubishi engine - now it has a P&W if I recall, kinda interesting / sad / funny story).

I've gotta get down to the Air & Space museum one of these days again before I leave the east coast... I love this kind of stuff.