Tony Stewart, this is not good

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[Joe Bob]

Ahhh, the mall cop stopped the fight?

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by black73

..... Second, I suppose you have never heard of Research Triangle, Marshall Space and Flight Center, ORNL, Duke University, Vanderbilt University, etc.
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Backed when I worked at the Research Triangle fresh out of college, it had the highest concentration of advanced degrees of anywhere in the world (since surpassed by the Silicon Valley)...bunch of knuckle draggin' idjuts . Oh yeah...and the wimins....as I was in my last year of college, I "vaguely" remember this "hottie freshman"....(friend of a friend's g/f)....Sandy something...went out to Speeder's neck of the woods and did OK for herself imho. Oh yeah...it just came to me...Sandra Bullock .

[strupgolf]

I recently spent a day at Tony's house for a cookout, fishing, bowling etc. I was not a big fan of Nascar, and only met Tony because he grew up in Rushville when he was in midgets, sprints, down the street. Anyway, all day long I never got any impression of a bad attitude, pissed off guy. He was the best host and really made us feel like family the entire day. This is a trajedy in all ways. I really think he was trying to scare the young driver, NEVER should have got out of his car. Those cars are very powerful and viewed up close, they look hard to drive. I hope some better rules come out from this. ( sidenote: when I say "house", it was more of the size of a Bass Pro Shop, because they desinged it)

[speeder]

Then there there's this comment....

Quote de speeder

..... NASCAR is not real big with the more educated parts of the country....

You're lucky I'm not wearing a driving helmet! I would throw it at you. First, NASCAR is not nationally televised and this story the media event that is because NASCAR is only popular in one part of the country. Second, I suppose you have never heard of Research Triangle, Marshall Space and Flight Center, ORNL, Duke University, Vanderbilt University, etc.



This non NASCAR fan is patiently waiting for your apology.

I personally owe you an apology for what? I've never heard anyone discussing a NASCAR race in my life. Or NASCAR in general, that I can remember.

You are correct that I do not know anyone at the space center or have many acquaintances in engineering in general. I was on the other side of the university.

There is certainly no reason to take my Nascar remark personally. No apology is forthcoming.

[livi]

Originally Posted by speeder

I personally owe you an apology for what? I've never heard anyone discussing a NASCAR race in my life. Or NASCAR in general, that I can remember.

You are correct that I do not know anyone at the space center or have many acquaintances in engineering in general. I was on the other side of the university.

There is certainly no reason to take my Nascar remark personally. No apology is forthcoming.

Reminds me of this: "So, Bubba J, what ya all doing on Saturdays?" "Watching NASCAR and drinkin´beer".

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by speeder

.... I've never heard anyone discussing a NASCAR race in my life. Or NASCAR in general, that I can remember.

You are correct that I do not know anyone at the space center or have many acquaintances in engineering in general. I was on the other side of the university.
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You're a VERY sharp guy Denis...just travelling a different "path" than I would choose or had an apptitude for. Have you ever even been to NC...the "heart" of Nascar origins? This state just might surprise ya btw....many folks with more money than god come from CA to "our finest" for medical care for example. I bet your dad doesn't underestimate those dumbasses from Duke's law school either. Have you ever had the pleasure of talking with Al Reed? I know he's EXTREMELY hard to reach on the phone....one of the reasons is he's a "talker" when you do get him...I remember one call where we spent probably 20 minutes talking Nascar after he noticed my NC location as he had been to the Fontana race the week before. You live in a "world" that is totally alien to me...though I've visited CA many times....love it (to visit), I wouldn't live there for anything...just not my "thang" and I talk funny . Different strokes man....

ps: I'll wager that one of the finest road coarses in this country is just an hour from from me....I'm not a "racer", but I'd bet VIR ranks up there with any of the CA tracks I hear about on Pelican. And one of those Nascar idiots lives within a few miles of me...on his "spread" he has built his own private track where by invitation only "the boyz" mix it up...totally out of the limelight and just for fun...'cause they are "racers". And being a car guy like you are....I'll bet you'd drool over visiting one of their shops (chock full of top notch engineers btw) and seeing what goes on behind the "Na$car $how". You don't "get" Nascar...I don't "get" Hollywood....again, different strokes

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by livi

Reminds me of this: "So, Bubba J, what ya all doing on Saturdays?" "Watching NASCAR and drinkin´beer".

Markus, I could teach you to "speel" y'all in just one sentence, but I'm sure I could never teach you to pronounce it properly like I do

[livi]

Originally Posted by KC911

Markus, I could teach you to "speel" y'all in just one sentence, but I'm sure I could never teach you to pronounce it properly like I do

I am pretty sure that is a fair assumption.

[black73]

Originally Posted by speeder

I personally owe you an apology for what? I've never heard anyone discussing a NASCAR race in my life. Or NASCAR in general, that I can remember.

You are correct that I do not know anyone at the space center or have many acquaintances in engineering in general. I was on the other side of the university.

There is certainly no reason to take my Nascar remark personally. No apology is forthcoming.

That's the problem with you Cali types......

Hey, I wasn't trying to start a pissing match. I was just being a smartass and having a little fun. And don't ever, ever visit the South, there are enough of you here already.

PS: That was just another lame joke. We would love to have you. I culd show you my banjo.

[livi]

Show me your banjo?

Sounds fluffy enough!

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by cashflyer

Ward should not have exited his car.
Ward should not have walked into the traffic.
From his actions and posturing in the video, he was clearly looking for a fight, and he found one.

Several people seem to think TS did this on purpose, with nothing to back their position other than a desire to see a celebrity fall.

I seriously doubt he was coming around the turn thinking, "Hey.... I think I'll kill this guy."

That is how I see it. It looks like the guy was trying to commit suicide by other driver.

I am no Tony Steward fan and I would knot know him if we were in the same room. 99.9% of this is on the guy that got out of his car and ONTO the track.

[URY914]

Originally Posted by URY914

TS will be hung out to dry for this one. He is about 95% responsible.

After seeing the replay of what happened several times now and hearing drivers discribe what it takes to drive these cars, I'm changing my position on this. It is about 95% Ward's fault.

I also don't see why Ward got all p'd off in the first place.

[VaSteve]

What would be the ultimate in ****ty irony is if the young guy was trying to be "Tony Stewart" to Tony Stewart. Emulate what TS has done many a time. Nothing like getting your "street cred" with your home crowd like sticking it to the ringer pro who dropped in.



There was a local track near me that had a big 100 lap race with a lot of "names"..mostly from the trucks series. Seemed that the regulars were gunning for them and I don't think any of them finished.

[Nathans_Dad]

Quote de KC911

Markus, I could teach you to "speel" y'all in just one sentence, but I'm sure I could never teach you to pronounce it properly like I do

I am pretty sure that is a fair assumption.

Phonetically it's y-awwwwwllll

[sand_man]

Perhaps this is good cause for TS to maintain a sportsman like reputation going forward. Especially given the dangerous nature of motorpsorts. Likely if the first car had hit Ward or if any other local had hit Ward (we'll never know), this conversation would have stopped with it being Ward's fault, 100%! But Stewart brings with him the shadow of "intimidator-like" behavior. And so the world (or those that care) pause to question and cast doubt. If what others say is true about this type of "WWF behavior" being encouraged (wink-wink-knod-knod, don't ask, don't tell) or boosted for the fans, then that is really scary!!!

Captain Obvious, signing off!

[weseeeee]

To me it looks like Tony turns left and blips the throttle to miss Mr. Ward, but the right rear tire catches him and turns the car back to the right. As for criminal charges, TS can claim he didn't see him til the last sec then tried to avoid him using the throttle to help turn the car. Sad, but completely avoidable situation.

[livi]

Originally Posted by Nathans_Dad

Phonetically it's y-awwwwwllll

Thanks!

[T77911S]

no, ward should not have gotten out and gone down to the inside or middle of the track. do drivers do it? yes. but that still does not mean he deserves to get killed.
as the saying goes, whatch the fights on the track then whatch them in the pits.

stop the video right when ward is at the rear of the race car. the car is already sideways and TS has already corrected the front wheels, as if to intentionally try to "dust" ward. also look at wards position when TS hits him, he has not moved down any further since the blue car passed.
TS has way too much experience to not have seen him.

my opion? TS was not going to take any lip from some "nobody" and TS was going to cover him with dirt.

i think TS will see an involuntary manslaughter charge, no time but lots of $$$$

i had to laugh at the pic someone posted asking if you could see the driver. no, but then look at the angle of the shot. could it have been any higher?

[sammyg2]

It's roundy-round racing.
It could have been all staged but poorly executed.