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				Anyone else having OSX problems with their Apple?
			 
			
			I installed an update to OSX Mavericks a week ago (10.9.5). The machine is now a door stop. Slow, constant spinning beach balls, slow internet connectivity, hangs up completely sometime requiring a hard reboot. Rebooted a few minutes ago, and it took 10 minutes! It was 100% fine before the update.  
		
	
		
	
			
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			I have 2 MacBooks at home and an 8-core Harpertown that I all put on Mavericks at the same time.  The older (core 2 duo) macbook is definitely a little clunkier now but everything else is ok. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			I also have an (identical) 8-core Harpertown at work that I put on Mavericks last week, and it's completely MISERABLE. takes a few tries to start up. Today I reset the RAM (alt-option-P-R startup) and it -seemed- better. Might be the placebo effect though. 
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			Try an SMC reset. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Google process for your particular box. 
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			I thought everything was supposed to get snappier. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			I haven't "upgraded" since 10.6. Can't afford to lose Rosetta. 
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			I'm still on snow leopard too.   It ain't broke! Why fix it!  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	  thinking about getting a Mac air soon anyways. So my pro will become a desk machine at that point.
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			Works fine for me but I'm starting to get sick of the "change for change's sake" constant upgrade treadmill that Apple seems to be getting on.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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agreed. my macbook pro runs fine on mavericks. i'm waiting before i go to yosemite.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Have you done the typical defrag / scan disk / clear out your cache administrative stuff?   
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			How old is your Mac? Mrs. Z-man has an older (2006? 2007?) Macbook Pro, and we're running Mavericks as well - it is a bit slower than before, but still bearable at this point. -Z 
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			My 2011 Macbook Pro has been running fine on the 10.9.5 update.   
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			It does seem with everyone of these upgrades though boot times are getting longer. I remember when I first bought a Mac in 2006 and it only took a few seconds to boot and maybe 3 seconds to shut down. I was impressed by that but now it's like I'm waiting for my work PC to start and shut down. I'm going to wait awhile before I go to Yosemite. 
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			My Macbook Pro is a 2009 and runs Maverick just fine as long as I don't have a bunch of sneaky toolbars, adware, and background programs sucking on my ram.  Clean cache, clean startup files, and periodic "repair permissions" maintenance keeps her healthy.  I currently only have 2G ram but will upgrade to 8G soon to improve my music software performance.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			my 2011 MBP did that crap recently + fan going on a lot till a pram reset, and I fixed permissions yesterday. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Seems to be OK now. I'm on Yosemite- Mavericks was OK for me. rjp 
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			2011 Mac Mini on Yosemite.  No issues.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			My MBR does this every once in a while. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I had issues initially with Yosemite... especially internet speed... I did my due diligence, reset PRAM, rebuilt permissions, made more space on hard drive for memory cache, eventually it got back to normal. I believe that spotlight was indexing everything in the background and killing performance... took 2 days, I'm not sure what did it but a couple days and the usual fixes took care of it... 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I do remember my permissions messed up list being huge after Yosemite. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			The PRAM reset fixed the beach balls and my cooling fan going crazy. Haven't heard it since. rjp 
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			It's important to remember Apple is taking the tough road here... It's an in-place system upgrade, attempting to keep all your **** intact and working... it's a miracle it works at all... A clean re-image is a safe way to go, that's all you'd ever do with Windows... So keeping that in mind, it's really not bad ! (not being a fan boy here, I've worked as sys admin int he past and built Windows images and packages for a living, so I appreciate Apple's efforts)
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I've updated to Yosemite on my mac book air.  All seems fine.  Heck, even wifi connects faster than yosemite.  All good for me.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I did PRAM reset, SMC reset (took the battery out, required finding a Y1 screwdriver, major PIA. Stupid unibody design without a removable battery!), verified and repaired disk permissions. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
				
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