Amelia Earhart Plane Fragment Identified

[Baz]

Originally Posted by SCcaretaker

Anyone see the special on this that the history channel aired sunday 7/09 ?

Nicely done on thread revival!

I wish I had watched it - hope to see a rerun.....

[sammyg2]

Did they ever find wrong-way Feldman?

[tabs]

Originally Posted by TimT

why does she have a iphone holster on her belt?

This proves that AE was a TIME TRAVELER....

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Has anyone tried calling the phone?

[Esel Mann]

That's kinda hard as only Jenny's number was written on the wall.

867-5309eeeyine

[URY914]

She was last seen with Jimmy Hoffa laying on the beach drinking from a coconut shell.

[Seahawk]

For Amelia

[Rtrorkt]

Amelia Earhart May Have Survived Crash-Landing, Newly Discovered Photo Suggests - NBC News

[Jon B]

Originally Posted by Jolly Amaranto

The coconut crabs may have eaten her.
Coconut Crabs Eat Everything from Kittens to, Maybe, Amelia Earhart | Smart News | Smithsonian

Very likely, if they ended up on some small island.

[nzporsche944s2]

Originally Posted by Jon B

Very likely, if they ended up on some small island.

Those things are delicious! I had some on Niue Island (South Pacific) several times. They call them uga and they are a delicacy. The body is actually oily flesh whereas the pincers are more like lobster but with a subtle coconut sweetness...

I'm getting hungry just thinking about it. If the island had those crabs then that is a HUGE food source. Bludgeoning one of those a night you would actually gain weight..

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

Amelia Earhart May Have Survived Crash-Landing, Newly Discovered Photo Suggests - NBC News

[Heel n Toe]

I guess this is corroborating evidence... Jolly posted this in this thread in Nov. 2014:

Originally Posted by Jolly Amaranto

When I was on Saipan, some of the natives claimed that she and her navigator crashed there and were captured by the Japanese.

From the above article about the photo on the NBC News site... third and second paragraphs from the end:

Josephine Blanco Akiyama, who lived on Saipan as a child, has long claimed she saw Earhart in Japanese custody.

"I didn't even know it was a woman, I thought it was a man," said Akiyama. "Everybody was talking about her — they were talking about in Japanese. That's why I know that she's a woman. They were talking about a woman flyer."

Amelia Earhart May Have Survived Crash-Landing, Newly Discovered Photo Suggests - NBC News

[SCadaddle]

I watched the TV show the other night, well, early morning. My Dad was aboard the floating dry dock ARD-15 in Saipan/Tinian Island back in 1944. I'll ask him if he ever heard anything about Amelia.

[sc_rufctr]

Next question. Could that be her plane circled in red?

[Jolly Amaranto]

While on Saipan in 1966, we were shown the "jail cells" where she and Noonan were allegedly held. At that time the building was still a roofless ruin full of bullet pock marks left over from the invasion in 1944.

[seanratpel]

The evidence on that show was quite convincing. Seems like it made sense, ran out of fuel, crashed, taken by Japs interrogated as a spy, probably either died from prolonged torture, exposure or flat out executed. The Japanese never had a problem with executing pow's by the hundreds. You really think they had a problem offing those two??

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by seanratpel

The evidence on that show was quite convincing. Seems like it made sense, ran out of fuel, crashed, taken by Japs interrogated as a spy, probably either died from prolonged torture, exposure or flat out executed. The Japanese never had a problem with executing pow's by the hundreds. You really think they had a problem offing those two??

Disclaimer: I haven't watched the program. However, the photo in question was, according to one source, taken in 1935, two years before Earhart disappeared. If that's true, the whole theory is debunked. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/11/536620463/japanese-blogger-points-out-timeline-flaw-in-supposed-earhart-photo But let's assume the photo is time-correct, there are still problems.

Some of what you post does have some clarifying counter points that undermine the theory of the program. First, for Earhart to land on the Marshall Islands, she would have had to reverse course while low on fuel, and attempt to fly 800 miles in the opposite direction from her fuel depot at Howland Island. That is a distance beyond the range of her plane, based on last known position and the distance the Electra had already flown. Additionally, her radio was unable to receive so she would be leaving the area she was expected to be and would never know if her support was aware of her change in course. Also, there is no evidence that she ever notified her support that she was reversing course through the broadcasts she did make.

Second, Earhart disappeared July 2nd. The Japanese government issued statements to all it's vessels/personnel to look for the fliers, who had been downed at sea, and rescue them if sighted. The Koshu Maru, the vessel in the photo, received the message, according to it's log, and never reported any sighting/rescue. The log also indicates that it was at Greenwich Island on July 3rd, one day after the disappearance. It was there to deliver meteorologist to a weather station. Though the picture in the video is undated, the ship in question was 1500 miles away from the Marshall Islands at the time of the disappearance. Had Earhart landed there, how long would it take for the Kosh Maru to steam there? Wouldn't there be news of the landing to the outside world in the meantime--after all, this is the world's most famous aviator? Are we expected to believe the two fliers were waiting weeks, without the information getting out? There is also no indication that the Koshu Maru was sent to the Marshall Islands close to the time of the disappearance.

Finally, the Japanese war in the Pacific did not start until July 7th, five days after the disappearance. Japan was engaged in a shooting war with China as well as a military threat by Russia over possession claims of several islands. The last thing Japan wanted was for the U.S. and the Pacific Fleet to enter the conflict against them by killing a U.S. citizen and the world famous female aviator. At the time, the US had no interest in entering the war with China, so why give the Americans a reason? If anything, it would be in Japan's best interest to find the fliers, rescue them, and return them with great ceremony to the world, demonstrating their "compassionate" and "humanitarian" nature.

Again, I have not seen the program, but there is a lot to consider for the theory to be taken seriously. Much of what I cite comes from anecdotal accounts of persons aboard the Koshu Maru and Greenwich Island, which can always be in doubt. However, for me, the most important piece of evidence refuting the theory is the flight path and course change that would have been necessary. It doesn't stand up to the known facts of her broadcast positions and last known compass heading. The photo is provocative, but it's much like seeing animals or people in cumulus cloud formations--you see what you want to see. That figure sitting on the dock could just as easily be an young man of Asian descent, given the clothes, haircut, and high cheek-bones.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/amelia-earhart-captured-and-killed-new-evidence-debunks-history-channels-crazy-theory

[seanratpel]

Well watch the show first then before you comment. They talked about her course, the storm etc etc.

Plus, I can't believe you're using the words COMPASSIONATE & HUMANITARIAN in the same sentence with the wwII era Japanese. That's a joke right??

[Jolly Amaranto]

Remember, this was before WWII started and before the Japanese began to openly demonstrate their true compassion and humanitarianism in such places like Nanking. They were still being very secretive about their dealings fortifying the Pacific Islands mandated over to them after they took them from the Germans in WWI. Thus, many conspiracy theories dwell on the secret spy component of Earhart's flight and its secret plan to fly over and photograph of some of these outposts. When we were hearing all these stories on our visit to Saipan, we just dismissed them as afore mentioned conspiracy theories. The residents on Saipan were trying to develop a fledgling tourist trade at that time and it seemed that there were all kinds of wild legends about all kinds of things floating around to build some kind of mystery about the place. (Monsters, giants, ghosts etc.)