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ossiblue 11-20-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 8362688)
Yup

I must admit, if he had done this to my sister, or my daughter, they would still be looking for his body.

I think they changed the SOL for aggravated rape since all this happened. That being the case, I suspect the laws that were in effect at the time would be the ones that apply.

Yep, exactly right (in Ca.)

biosurfer1 11-20-2014 02:22 PM

I was wondering when stuff like this would start to come out:

New Cosby Accuser Has Long Criminal History, Including Fraud | TMZ.com

sc_rufctr 11-20-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 8362923)
I was wondering when stuff like this would start to come out:

New Cosby Accuser Has Long Criminal History, Including Fraud | TMZ.com

Interesting to say the least.

Thanks for posting this.

ossiblue 11-20-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 8362923)
I was wondering when stuff like this would start to come out:

New Cosby Accuser Has Long Criminal History, Including Fraud | TMZ.com

Maybe significant, maybe not.

Her claim is the incident happened to her 40 years ago. She was 19 at the time. Just when did this "long criminal history" begin and is it relevant to her claim? Certainly a lot of people's lives change over a 40 year period, and not all for the better. Her recent history of unlawful and fraudulent behavior does not necessarily nullify what she claims happened to her four decades ago. Some might even argue the incident was a factor in how her later life imploded (I am not making that argument, however.)

The person making this accusation is not the pillar of society (by a long shot) and her credibility is nil, but that does not apply to the others who, so far, have come forward. Her credibility as a 59 year old ex-con will likely make her story questionable as this whole mess is a "he said, she said" affair, but it does not weaken the stories of those who have already spoken out.

If we are to believe the 15 (to date) women who have claimed assaults and that Cosby is a serial sexual predator, we need to allow that some of those many victims did not go on to live normal, uneventful, later lives. Linda Traitz may be one of them.

javadog 11-20-2014 04:21 PM

I thought that the interview with Tamara Green on CNN tonight was very interesting. She seems very credible.

JR

biosurfer1 11-20-2014 04:22 PM

I understand your point but to me, at least, it's very odd when something like this comes out and all of a sudden you have all these women coming out of the woodwork to make claims about things that happened 20,30, and the latest, 43 years ago.

Seems easy to claim something happened so long ago, there is no way to prove/disprove it and the only reason to be believed is other people say the same thing, when those people are reliant on your story to make them believable too.

intakexhaust 11-20-2014 07:36 PM

'Hulk' star Lou Ferrigno's wife is newest Cosby accuser - NY Daily News

M.D. Holloway 11-20-2014 08:13 PM

This reminds me of the boys (now men) that have come forward with stories of priests sexually abusing them. While many of these guys were regular Joe's, some were criminals but how many lied?

How many of you guys that were somehow sexually assaulted have come forward? To do so takes an amazing amount of courage - I don't see this as typical attention getter or a way to make a quick buck.

M.D. Holloway 11-20-2014 08:14 PM

Something tells me that the Cos is gonna break...maybe swallow a bullet?

sc_rufctr 11-20-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 8363448)
Something tells me that the Cos is gonna break...maybe swallow a bullet?

I doubt that very much. More likely, at his age he'll simply disappear.

Don Ro 11-21-2014 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 8363520)
I doubt that very much. More likely, at his age he'll simply disappear.

I think that you may be right.
Then again...in this society there's always the race card waiting in the wings.
Look at how terrified it (society) is of Emperor O...and with what he's been allowed to get away.
Cosby just may continue to enroll the self-protection of his arrogance to let it roll...by saying nothing.
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Who knows? Veeerrrryyy interesting.
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PS Now Don Lemon is falling back on his sexual victimization...so he'll be forgiven for his question/statement.

DanielDudley 11-21-2014 02:24 AM

I really have no way of knowing what is real here. That is a lot of women speaking out.

I want to believe in Bill, just to preserve my happy childhood memories. Too bad, because they are already tarnished. In that way, those ladies have already gotten what they were seeking.

If Bill is innocent, at least he has that to hang on to. All the rest of us have is a revised history of happy memories, a lingering shadow of doubt.
Still there are certain lines that men should not cross. This would be one of them.

javadog 11-21-2014 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 8363578)
. If Bill is innocent, at least he has that to hang on to.

After all this, there are people that still think he might be innocent... I'm amazed.

If nothing else, hold him accountable for the one lawsuit that he did settle. He didn't settle that because he was innocent.

JR

URY914 11-21-2014 04:33 AM

Rape allegations hurt Bill Cosby but sail past Bill Clinton - Opinion - The Boston Globe

biosurfer1 11-21-2014 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 8363446)
I don't see this as typical attention getter or a way to make a quick buck.

I wouldn't be so sure:

"Moritz says she never told anyone, until now. She says although the statute of limitations has run, she intends to file a civil lawsuit against Cosby."

http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/20/bill-cosby-forced-oral-sex-victim-jonny-carson-louisa-moritz/

BTW, this is the one that happened 43 years ago.

Paul_Heery 11-21-2014 06:24 AM

Temple University Receives Anonymous Donation To Build Center For Discrediting Rape Allegations ;)

ossiblue 11-21-2014 07:16 AM

It's been three days since Janice Dickinson made public her claim of sexual assault against Cosby, bringing the total of accusations to 15, six of which were made public.

Now, add Linda Tritz, Louisa Moritz, Carla Farrigno, and Therese Serignese to the public list of inappropriate sexual conduct accusations.

Today's total: 19 allegations of which 10 are on the public record.

To be noted, not all of the accusations are of drugging, followed by an assault. All, however, involve unwanted and intimidating sexual advances which speak to the character of the accused.

ossiblue 11-21-2014 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 8363578)
(snip...)

I want to believe in Bill, just to preserve my happy childhood memories. Too bad, because they are already tarnished. (snip...)

I think this speaks for a lot of people.

From the link posted by URY914 on why Clinton gets a pass and Cosby gets pummeled: "Maybe we expect more from a sitcom fantasy figure like Cosby’s Dr. Huxtable than we do from real-life politicians."

BE911SC 11-21-2014 09:19 AM

How come Clinton got away with it? Because he was a powerful politician and even women will overlook things like sexual predation to get what they want. When Clinton was in the midst of his impeachment I asked the women in my family how come Patricia Ireland and N.O.W. isn't up in arms and screaming bloody murder over his behavior. Well, after some hedging and attempts to redirect the question by the women, my dear mother finally said, "He gets away with it because women hate a woman like Monica [Lewinsky] more than they hate a man like Bill Clinton." Ah, one of mom's wonderful razor-sharp explanations.

Cosby, if he's guilty, has gotten away with it because of the secret hopes of these women who want him to leave Camille and marry them. Same thing with all of Clinton's "bimbo eruptions." Same thing with Marilyn Monroe, who was said to be so distraught over JFK not leaving Jackie for her that she committed suicide.

Males with money (and power, which is also money) are surrounded by ambitious people, ambitious women included. Tiger Woods is a good example. Gets married to a girl he really doesn't know, she pops the required "heir and a spare" to lock up her share of the estate and then slams her legs together and flies of to momma's house in Sweden. Tiger succumbs to the predators--the cocktail waitress among others--and hooray! Elin catches him and shakes him down for 70 million.

I didn't say Cosby didn't do it. I am saying that it takes two to tango.

Tobra 11-21-2014 09:25 AM

It may take two to tango, but it only takes one to drug into unconsciousness and drag the other one around the dance floor.


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