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74-911 04-20-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9087573)
..... The cliff hanger is that Chuck has Jimmy on tape, and who left the note for Mike? The hole of plusability that begs credibility is how did Gus get on to Mike and his plan? In this series small things add up that move the plot along. Maybe one can call it minimalism.

Yep, when Jimmy said "it's your word against mine" when Chuck asked him if he knew he had just committed a felony... and who put the branch on the horn... cliffhangers they be albeit somewhat small compared to Who Shot J.R.

I just wonder how many of the characters from BB will be worked into the following seasons as anyone is fair game... will Walt and Jesse appear at some point?

ramonesfreak 04-20-2016 10:38 AM

I was hoping chuck was dead after hitting his head so we can move on to something more exciting.

Since he survived and now has the tape, my bet is that jimmy hires mike to make chuck and his tape disappear

sand_man 04-20-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 9087651)
Since he survived and now has the tape, my bet is that jimmy hires mike to make chuck and his tape disappear

Interesting!

GWN7 04-20-2016 12:11 PM

Jimmy is to kind of a soul to do that. He loves his brother unlike Chuck who hates his brother because mom loved him best.

Jimmy gets disbarred, changes his name and writes the bar exam as Saul.

Gus left the note.

pcardude 04-20-2016 12:43 PM

I like this show even better than breaking bad

Baz 04-20-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GWN7 (Post 9087804)
Jimmy is to kind of a soul to do that. He loves his brother unlike Chuck who hates his brother because mom loved him best.

Jimmy gets disbarred, changes his name and writes the bar exam as Saul.

Gus left the note.


Close - except Chuck merely has to threaten Jimmy with the tape...and that's as far as it goes. Jimmy leaves town to start over somewhere else....unfortunately leaving Kim also as a consequence.

And yes.......Gus left the note. He doesn't want Hector killed because he has another measure of injury infliction in mind (remember Hector shooting his friend by poolside in a BB episode, when they were very young). This is how Mike and Gus meet for the first time and begin their relationship. How Hector is injured and wheelchair bound later might involve Mike...that part will be interesting to know.

stomachmonkey 04-20-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9088265)
Close - except Chuck merely has to threaten Jimmy with the tape...and that's as far as it goes. Jimmy leaves town to start over somewhere else....unfortunately leaving Kim also as a consequence.

And yes.......Gus left the note. He doesn't want Hector killed because he has another measure of injury infliction in mind (remember Hector shooting his friend by poolside in a BB episode, when they were very young). This is how Mike and Gus meet for the first time and begin their relationship. How Hector is injured and wheelchair bound later might involve Mike...that part will be interesting to know.

Yeah but Jimmy does not leave town.

I'm leaning towards Jimmy agreeing to change his name.

Chuck can't stand the fact that Jimmy is an attorney because he did not attend an Ivy league school.

It makes him crazy that his POS low life brother may be perceived as a peer and benefit from the name Chuck has made for himself.

ramonesfreak 04-21-2016 04:35 AM

There is no way jimmy can get disbarred and change his name and continue practicing law. Whether it's chuck or any of the hundreds of other people jimmy knows, has worked for, represented, judges, court personnel etc...would report him. In BB his face is on billboards and tv as Saul. He didn't also have reconstructive surgery to change his appearance.

The only logical explanation is the tape dissapears, Jimmy avoids getting disbarred and simply legally changes his name for whatever reason

Further, regarding Jimmy getting disbarred, changing his name and getting relicensed, you don't simply show up to the bar exam with a drivers license and get in. I've taken the test and you have to also show you graduated from law school. I don't think jimmy or the guy he knows in BB that can give you a new identity could make that happen

speeder 05-02-2016 07:34 AM

I'm not going to read any of the posts on this thread because a quick glance shows lots of spoilers but I'm half way through season 2 on iTunes and it's not really very good. I've always hated "idiot stories", which are plot lines that only move ahead when one or more characters are idiots.

In this case, it's the main character, Jimmy. He does something in every episode that is just stupid beyond comprehension, it causes everyone around him lots of grief and drama ensues. But it's not good drama, it's "idiot damage" drama.

This device is used a lot in comedy, where someone has to be an idiot in order to accomplish the story line but it's not good when used in drama. The best stories are ones in which everyone is intelligent yet still there is plenty of opportunity for treacherous behavior, double-crossing, illicit behavior, etc. Crime and legal stories suck when they depend on idiots, IMO.

The only thing decent in the show is the Mike character but most of his situations and set-ups defy credulity. That's the writers' fault but he's a good actor and does the most he can with what he's given. The whole older brother who is "allergic to electricity" deal is just writers who are desperate for a set-up and the well has gone dry. It's the opposite of inspiration.

I wanted this to be better when I paid the $23 for season two, (season one was on Netflix). Season one was slightly better, it took a few episodes for it to go completely stale.

tabs 05-02-2016 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9103448)
I'm not going to read any of the posts on this thread because a quick glance shows lots of spoilers but I'm half way through season 2 on iTunes and it's not really very good. I've always hated "idiot stories", which are plot lines that only move ahead when one or more characters are idiots.

In this case, it's the main character, Jimmy. He does something in every episode that is just stupid beyond comprehension, it causes everyone around him lots of grief and drama ensues. But it's not good drama, it's "idiot damage" drama.

This device is used a lot in comedy, where someone has to be an idiot in order to accomplish the story line but it's not good when used in drama. The best stories are ones in which everyone is intelligent yet still there is plenty of opportunity for treacherous behavior, double-crossing, illicit behavior, etc. Crime and legal stories suck when they depend on idiots, IMO.

The only thing decent in the show is the Mike character but most of his situations and set-ups defy credulity. That's the writers' fault but he's a good actor and does the most he can with what he's given. The whole older brother who is "allergic to electricity" deal is just writers who are desperate for a set-up and the well has gone dry. It's the opposite of inspiration.

I wanted this to be better when I paid the $23 for season two, (season one was on Netflix). Season one was slightly better, it took a few episodes for it to go completely stale.

Well then! You should stick to Aliens vs Predators and Batman Vs Superman as your entertainment fare.

Jimmy isn't an idiot, he just doesn't play well within the box of conventional rules. He became a rather free spirit after he saw what a gullible "sheep" his Dad was. Jimmy's problem is that he has a conscience, otherwise he could have risen right to the top of the corporate ladder.

As far as the the older brother phobia of "electricity" you would be surprised at the twists and turns mental illness take. HRC and the "vast right wing conspiracy" that she has been claiming as her Nemesis for at least the last 25 years. Obama and his cool, calm and collected states of emotional detachment... and the twisted logic of being proud of not backing up your own promise to do something if a Red Line was crossed.

I am sorry to say that it is your thinking that is suspect and lacks credulity.

Baz 05-02-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9103693)
Well then! You should stick to Aliens vs Predators and Batman Vs Superman as your entertainment fare.

Jimmy isn't an idiot, he just doesn't play well within the box of conventional rules. He became a rather free spirit after he saw what a gullible "sheep" his Dad was. Jimmy's problem is that he has a conscience, otherwise he could have risen right to the top of the corporate ladder.

As far as the the older brother phobia of "electricity" you would be surprised at the twists and turns mental illness take. HRC and the "vast right wing conspiracy" that she has been claiming as her Nemesis for at least the last 25 years. Obama and his cool, calm and collected states of emotional detachment... and the twisted logic of being proud of not backing up your own promise to do something if a Red Line was crossed.

I am sorry to say that it is your thinking that is suspect and lacks credulity.

Well said and 100% agree, Tabs. This is one of the best shows on TV. :cool:

1990C4S 05-02-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9103730)
This is one of the best shows on TV. :cool:

Perhaps Speeder and Baz are both correct.

sand_man 05-02-2016 11:25 AM

So I wonder how the storyline plays out if Chuck sends the recording of Jimmy's "confession" directly to Kim? Being that she punched Jimmy pretty hard in the arm after Chuck's original claim that Jimmy was behind it all, she already kinda/sorta suspects Jimmy is involved. And then Kim is faced with the decision of doing the "right thing", including ending her relationship with Jimmy, giving back the client, and threatening to take it up with the Bar Assoc.

Baz 05-02-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sand_man (Post 9103795)
So I wonder how the storyline plays out if Chuck sends the recording of Jimmy's "confession" directly to Kim? Being that she punched Jimmy pretty hard in the arm after Chuck's original claim that Jimmy was behind it all, she already kinda/sorta suspects Jimmy is involved. And then Kim is faced with the decision of doing the "right thing", including ending her relationship with Jimmy, giving back the client, and threatening to take it up with the Bar Assoc.

Kim already knows Jimmy is guilty of it......hence the shoulder punches.

But you do raise an interesting point of what happens if Chuck sends her a copy of the tape.

IMHO it won't get that far. Chuck will play the tape for Jimmy and Jimmy will have to shut down his practice. Losing Kim will unfortunately be the collateral damage of all of that.

I'm more interesting in the note left for Mike and that part of the story. Gustavo and Mike begin their relationship.....

speeder 05-02-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9103693)
Well then! You should stick to Aliens vs Predators and Batman Vs Superman as your entertainment fare.

Jimmy isn't an idiot, he just doesn't play well within the box of conventional rules. He became a rather free spirit after he saw what a gullible "sheep" his Dad was. Jimmy's problem is that he has a conscience, otherwise he could have risen right to the top of the corporate ladder.

As far as the the older brother phobia of "electricity" you would be surprised at the twists and turns mental illness take. HRC and the "vast right wing conspiracy" that she has been claiming as her Nemesis for at least the last 25 years. Obama and his cool, calm and collected states of emotional detachment... and the twisted logic of being proud of not backing up your own promise to do something if a Red Line was crossed.

I am sorry to say that it is your thinking that is suspect and lacks credulity.

I would suggest that I have better taste than you. As proof, I offer exhibit A: I'm eating this burrito right now from Yuca's in Los Feliz. This is the burrito:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462228311.jpg

Yuca's is in the parking lot of a liquor store.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462228426.jpg

And this is the James Beard award they won. You may or may not have seen one of these before:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462228552.jpg

Questions? :)

speeder 05-02-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9103730)
Well said and 100% agree, Tabs. This is one of the best shows on TV. :cool:

I don't doubt it but it's still not very good. That's sort of a tallest midget compliment.

CurtEgerer 05-02-2016 03:02 PM

Jimmy's name change was explained in BB. He said he needed a Jewish name for street cred with his ghetto clientele.

I'm anxiously awaiting the first appearance of Badger and Skinny Pete :)

dtw 05-02-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 9104119)
Jimmy's name change was explained in BB. He said he needed a Jewish name for street cred with his ghetto clientele.

I'm anxiously awaiting the first appearance of Badger and Skinny Pete :)

And Hewell!!!

CurtEgerer 10-09-2018 03:15 PM

So given the Season 4 finale last night, how many more seasons could there be? Seems like one, possibly 2 more to me.

Baz 10-09-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10210720)
So given the Season 4 finale last night, how many more seasons could there be? Seems like one, possibly 2 more to me.

That's something I hadn't thought of. But it makes sense.

That parking lot trick by Mike with the chewing gum was pretty epic! :p

MBAtarga 10-09-2018 04:32 PM

Certainly at least 2 more seasons - and I could even see this going to 3 or 4. They can always introduce more characters and storylines that run parallel in time with BB and Walter's/Jessie's dealing with Saul.

I'm curious when does Kim exit the story? She seems to be getting more miffed at Jimmy and his attitude. She's got to distance herself in order to stay legit.

wdfifteen 10-09-2018 04:42 PM

I love the show. Odenkirk (sp?j is great in his role.
“Slippn’ Jimmy” is a great name for a band, or a pulling tractor, or your uh, ... never mind that one.

BK911 10-09-2018 05:22 PM

I fast forward through Jimmy to watch Mike, nacho and Gus. Too slow.

red-beard 10-09-2018 05:46 PM

I can't believe we had to go through 4 seasons to finally get to "Saul".

Baz 10-09-2018 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10210910)
I can't believe we had to go through 4 seasons to finally get to "Saul".

You say that like it's bad thing!

This is the best show on TV. :p

tabs 10-09-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pcardude (Post 8480001)
I did not like it. Very very slow.

Take your add meds and you might find you like it.

CurtEgerer 10-10-2018 04:50 AM

At the current pace, the meth lab will be done and Saul Goodman will be in business next season. Hadn't thought of them running a parallel track to BB from the point of view of Saul with WW and Jesse as just side characters - that would be really interesting.

Yeah, the immediate question is when and how does Kim get taken out? I read an interview with her and she has anxiety issues every time she reads a new script. She has to get killed (since there's not even a mention of her in BB) and maybe that's what triggers Saul to go full crooked lawyer.

911 Rod 10-10-2018 07:03 AM

It's a shame this isn't on Netflix

Gogar 10-10-2018 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 10211336)
It's a shame this isn't on Netflix

If you still have cable and it has AMC you can watch it online anytime.

Deschodt 10-10-2018 08:42 AM

I agree - it's really good, but also really slow at times... That's fine the first time around because of good acting, makes for a good story building, but I've found it's unwatchable a second time (been meaning to rewatch BB and I cannot wait to FFWD to the good bits). There have been entire episodes of BCS where nothing at all happened. Now with Gus / German guys / Spy mexican dude, it's livening up again...

Anyone else surprised Mike shot the german guy ? (or did he?). When did he flip the switch to official bad guy? I'd have thought he would try harder to fix it...

Baz 10-11-2018 09:11 AM

Can't disagree......

'S’all good, man': How Better Call Saul became superior to Breaking Bad

CurtEgerer 04-30-2019 05:26 PM

This is some funny *****:

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wdfifteen 02-21-2020 02:57 AM

I've been binge watching Better Call Saul for the past couple of days. I'm at the part where they are building the lab. Great show. The characters are interesting. The camera work is outstanding!

astrochex 02-21-2020 05:04 AM

New season is on Netflix. Finally.

biosurfer1 02-21-2020 07:06 AM

I thought Netflix had only up to season 4?

Season 5 starts this Sunday on AMC.

greglepore 02-21-2020 10:50 AM

First of all, its on Amazon.
What they've done in the past is make the episodes available for free after they air on amc, or for 30 bucks or so you can buy the season now and binge.
I rewatched the last few s4 episodes this week, forgot how powerful the stuff with Mike and the German was, and Saul burning down his own house with Kim, just as he almost had redemption.

astrochex 02-21-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 10759795)
I thought Netflix had only up to season 4?

Season 5 starts this Sunday on AMC.

Season 4 is new for Netflix.

aschen 02-21-2020 01:28 PM

samesies seems like it took forever to get back to netflix. Love the build of characters in this show.

I thought kim was kinda one dimensional in BB, but really great here.

tcar 02-21-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aschen (Post 10760277)
....I thought kim was kinda one dimensional in BB, but really great here.

Kim was NOT in BB at all. (Guess that's pretty one-dimensional :) )

She's ONLY in BCS.

aschen 02-21-2020 01:49 PM

Dang I am getting confused by how long all this BB and BCS has been spread over. I think I mean in early seasons of BCS then. I recall her seeming a bit robotic in her cig conversations with jimmy/saul.

One day I will go back and rewatch both series I think. She also seems to be getting more attractive too so I may have confused hotness with personality. Wouldn't be the first time for that!


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