why does a Canoe scare me?

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[BRPORSCHE]

Originally Posted by lowyder993s

Put it this way...Cliff is the only guy I know who tried to sue the city because they built the sidewalks to close to his azz!

Hahahahahaha

[Racerbvd]

[aigel]

A canoe is not a problem as long as you are on a lake without wind / chop.

If you are on a river with swells, not so good. Or if you are on a river with swells and your Great Dane riding in the canoe decides to get up and jump around.

I hunt out of a Radisson Canoe (buddy owns) and it is a duck killing machine. It spots a trolling motor for easy getting around. It could pack a dressed moose no problem.

That all said, listen to JYL - an ocean kayak - sit on top, is what you need. Plenty of angler models out there that will do the trick for wally and whatever. Also good to skin dive out of and fish the kelp a the north coast.

Another piece of advice is to RENT a canoe or kayak. Usually means you can get it where you use it, no hauling, no worries about it blowing off the car if not fastened right, not getting stolen, no up front $1k and no storage.

HTH? I have a 13 Ocean Kayak Trident in Camon on my wish list (Abalone diving, fishing, duck hunting).

G

[Bill Douglas]

Canoes are fun. Especially a Canadian canoe. And they are so long and flat on the bottom they don't need much depth to the water.



Even the dog likes riding in it although he's more of a standup paddleboard sort of a guy.

[Holger]

As long as you dont go for this kind of kayak you should be fine:



My wife fell into the water as she tried to sit in my racing kayak, and she was holding the pier!

[Eric 951]

My group of friends used to take annual 3-day canoe/camping trips down the Potomac--usually (1) of us dumped per trip (there were some rapid sections)--so long as you are prepared and the water temp is high enough it is no big deal, and canoes are a lot of fun.

Or take the tack my buddy used when we went to Deep Creek Lake, he fitted his canoe with home-made PVC outriggers and a small trolling motor, the 2 of us fished out of that thing all day-stable as could be.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

That joke is like a 20 year old horse with a limp.

Which is perfect for me .....

[71scgc]

Canoe or kayak, it just takes practice.
I started in canoes at maybe 11-12yo. Most times I went over was due to someone else. Practically lived in them in the summer.

Have a couple of kayaks now. Usually stay in the sound. Have been out in some pretty rough water, high wind and tide. One day we went about 2 miles. It felt like 20.
Start out into the wind, come back with it. Makes for a quick and easy return when you're tired from paddling out.
PFD highly advisable, especially when alone. I'm not the strong swimmer I used to be.

Carter

[dennis in se pa]

I have an Old Town Pack. 12' and only 30 lbs. Perfect for solo. As has been said you learn to be stable.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Lothar

For camping, the Discovery Series from Olde Town is great. Awesome capacity and stability. A Kayak style paddle works for many of us, but more for the rear seat. Front seat needs to produce horsepower. Good technique with a traditional canoe paddle in the front seat works best for me.

I have an early Discovery 158 that I bought in the early '80's, when they first started making that line. It originally had "contoured" plastic seats that really didn't match anyone's behind, so they were soon replaced with proper wicker seats.

This thing has served me faithfully for 30 years now. When my kids were little, we would pile the whole family in it - including the dog - for many a wonderful paddling adventure. As my boys got bigger and they began to take it out on their own, they soon learned the value of teamwork and cooperation. Of course the dog was always in it with them, adding a bit of spice to the adventure. We even used the darn thing to haul deer out after many a successful hunt (possibly even made successful due to the fact we had to canoe to get there, thereby diminishing the crowds). Great times and lots of fond memories.

When I fell like taking it out on my own, I simply turn it around backwards and it handles just fine with only me in it. It does, however, get better if I put Katie, my Golden Retriever, in the bow. That works out to be the perfect balance, for a lot of reasons...

[Z-man]

Originally Posted by john70t

If you find yourself alone on a windy lake:
1). Sit in the front facing backwards.
The weight and propulsion will be more in the center.

2). If very very windy, sit in the front.
The tail will catch the wind but you will have solid FWD.

I found that option 1 works best when alone in a canoe, but instead of sitting, I found that kneeling in that same location works better - weight distribution is better, center of gravity is lower, and your rowing is more efficient.

A canoe is more stable than a kayak, but less stable than a jon boat. As said before, if fishing is your primary goal, a jon boat is a better option. But a canoe cuts through the water more efficiently than a jon boat, and I wouldn't take a jon boat through rapids. (Kayak is most efficient of the three on the water).

In college, every fall we did a canoe-a-thon - a day long trip from the Yellow Breeches to the Susquehanna river outside of Harrisburg, PA. Lots of fun, and I learned a lot of the basics...

-Z

[sammyg2]

dunno, doan care, I'm having fun.



Come on!

You know the words, Roxie!

[Rapewta]

Under the mind of the normal male is something interesting.
The canoe is a vagina. Don't laugh. Men don't deal with this very well.
Look at the canoe.
Personally, I am an avid Kayak (they look even more like a vagina) user.
I take mine out and cover a lot of the river in it.
Yes... it is a snatch but just like the real deal... I enjoy stroking the paddle through the
nasty slime and dirty water to enjoy the ride.
If you are scared of the canoe for other reasons... I would like to hear why.

[intakexhaust]

Originally Posted by Rapewta

Under the mind of the normal male is something interesting.
The canoe is a vagina. Don't laugh. Men don't deal with this very well.
Look at the canoe.
Personally, I am an avid Kayak (they look even more like a vagina) user.
I take mine out and cover a lot of the river in it.
Yes... it is a snatch but just like the real deal... I enjoy stroking the paddle through the
nasty slime and dirty water to enjoy the ride.
If you are scared of the canoe for other reasons... I would like to hear why.

Honey, lets go fishing today and take the vagina. Oh, please help me load the vagina on the top of the Edsel.... (note the flesh tone paint)

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by Rapewta

Don't laugh.

Sorry, but I can't stop laughing.

[72doug2,2S]

Over sized stand up paddle boards are the rage in SWFL, but I still want a sit down Kayak with foot peddles.

Kayaks: Hobie Sport Caribbean Blue 09'07"

[Lothar]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I have an early Discovery 158 that I bought in the early '80's, when they first started making that line. It originally had "contoured" plastic seats that really didn't match anyone's behind, so they were soon replaced with proper wicker seats.

Agreed. The wicker seats are great. People have the idea that you actually sit on them. When paddling, I kneel on the closed cell foam pads that you can see forward of the stern seat. I have the same in the bow. Very comfortable and much promotes proper body mechanics.

The canoe in the pic is actually a 160K. It came with a middle seat, but I removed it and added the thwart for use on my annual 3 day camping/canoe trip. You can load a lot of gear in that canoe. It is a little wider than the 158, but very similar in every other respect.

[vash]

Originally Posted by Rapewta

Under the mind of the normal male is something interesting.
The canoe is a vagina. Don't laugh. Men don't deal with this very well.
Look at the canoe.
Personally, I am an avid Kayak (they look even more like a vagina) user.
I take mine out and cover a lot of the river in it.
Yes... it is a snatch but just like the real deal... I enjoy stroking the paddle through the
nasty slime and dirty water to enjoy the ride.
If you are scared of the canoe for other reasons... I would like to hear why.

what?..that makes the paddler the elusive G spot? that is scary!!

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Lothar

Agreed. The wicker seats are great. People have the idea that you actually sit on them. When paddling, I kneel on the closed cell foam pads that you can see forward of the stern seat. I have the same in the bow. Very comfortable and much promotes proper body mechanics.

The canoe in the pic is actually a 160K. It came with a middle seat, but I removed it and added the thwart for use on my annual 3 day camping/canoe trip. You can load a lot of gear in that canoe. It is a little wider than the 158, but very similar in every other respect.

Ah -o.k., I thought maybe it was just an updated 158. The reinforcing rib down the keel is absent in my 158, plus the thwarts are entirely different. Mine has the contoured carrying thwart, which is invaluable for loading and unloading it on the roofs of my Landcruisers, plus for short solo portaging.

Boy, and no kidding about "a lot of gear". How about two guys, our camping gear, and two large Washington mulies? Did that several times over the years.

This thread is making me want to break out the old canoe and get back into it again, at least more actively than the last few years. I've been pretty much just spending a few hours on a small local lake, or cruising up and down a slough that connects two local lakes. Just me and my partner Katie the Wonder Dog. I really need to head back up into the back country with it again. Those were the days...

I was actually without a really good means to haul it out to the back country for a few years. My local paddling was accomplished by hauling it on top of my '72 911 (with Katie riding shotgun). Now you want to get some looks, waves, and thumbs up - try driving around in an old 911 with a canoe on the roof and a Golden Retriever hanging her head out the passenger window... good times...