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Posted in official capacity? It was his personal Facebook, it had nothing to do with his job at all.

It's amazing to see encouragement to post anonymously, when those were his exact words quoted...not something hateful or racist even though the media has brainwashed everyone into thinking so, just that he thought the cop did nothing wrong.

Sad and pathetic he would lose his job for that and that people would defend the district for doing so.

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He commented on the online article. He either read it on FB and commented or logged into the comment section via his FB account, which pretty much guarantees your name and photo will appear next to the comments. My FB page is viewable to friends only. If I had a public service job, I'd not even think about commenting publicly on controversial issues that don't involve me and under my real name.
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Social media is public and there is little/no separation between "job" and "personal" life. Those that don't understand that will likely experience consequences for their ego wanting to "win the internets."
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Social media is public and there is little/no separation between "job" and "personal" life. Those that don't understand that will likely experience consequences for their ego wanting to "win the internets."
Thank God, there's no one like that here on Pelican.
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He gave very clear instruction several times to many of the kids to "leave, now" including the girl that was detained. There were a few told to sit and wait, but he pointed at the group of girls repeatedly telling them to leave. They didn't. Then it looked like the girls got mouthy.

I don't like the way the girl was handled, but she was told to leave and she just walked around ignoring him, yelling across the street.

And just because there's a video, nothing is shown of when they first arrived. What we all see is a very, very small part of the whole story.

If upon arrival, he jumped out and immediately started his interaction that way, he was way out of line. I wasn't there. Neither were any of us and to try and make blanket statements based on that video is irresponsible.

Also, people trying to debate police etiquette or processes trying to use this video as a talking point is unfair. We're all bigger than that.

Well said Don. Thanks for your well written post!
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well said don. Thanks for your well written post!
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Social media will be my downfall. I can feel it coming on, like a bullet with my name on it. To paraphrase Andy Warhol "In the future, everyone will be shamed for 15 minutes".

Too much information, too soon, too fast. Whether it's an invitation to a pool party or an indictment and conviction of an individual. We all just need to step back and breathe.
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I know a ton of Pelicans in the real world and many are Facebook friends. But I will never make my FB page viewable to non-friends and I've never felt any need to spout off on some issue of the day to my FB friends. I've hidden the feeds of a lot of otherwise awesome people because they write stuff on FB that'd make me walk away if they said it in person, and I don't do politics on FB. No sympathy for those who think FB is their platform to lecture the world.
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.....If I had a public service job....
I would not have a Facebook or any other social media account.
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I know a ton of Pelicans in the real world and many are Facebook friends. But I will never make my FB page viewable to non-friends and I've never felt any need to spout off on some issue of the day to my FB friends. I've hidden the feeds of a lot of otherwise awesome people because they write stuff on FB that'd make me walk away if they said it in person, and I don't do politics on FB. No sympathy for those who think FB is their platform to lecture the world.
I'm the same way Rick, nothing but cat videos and pics of my lunch on my page.

Well, except for that pic of me bangin' that blow up doll wearing the Hillary Clinton mask, that might be considered political. I think I'll just take it down.
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....Well, except for that pic of me bangin' that blow up doll wearing the Hillary Clinton mask, that might be considered political. I think I'll just take it down.
Just so I get the frightening mental image correct before I bleach my brain clean....WHO's wearing the Hillary mask? ....you or the doll

STUPID KIDS and a VERY occasional "totally out of control cop". I've seen a LOT of the former (as I was one too decades ago) and a handful of the latter too in my lifetime. Some cops are "Andys" and deescalate, while other "Barneys" throw gas on glowing embers....they've got a TOUGH job, but some just aren't cut out for that line of work imo.
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Don's a bum.
Thanks Rick. You owe me one large beer of my choice. ASAFP.

I try and be a "big picture" guy and attempt to "get it right" not "be right".
But, I wasn't always that way.

That officer was dealt an extremely tough day. As he looks back now, I'm sure he can identify the weak spot in his chain of safety, so to speak. Sad ending to his career for sure. But I'd rather have it end this way than a worse version.

Wrt him upholstering his firearm, I see it as justified. Sure, we can all Monday morning QB, but for him it was real time, real quick. He was detaining a person that was disregarding his repeated, direct order to leave. Then it appears she crossed his line and he'd had enough of her actions. He made the decision to have her join the others being detained. She immediately resisted, and it went south very quickly as he attempted to regain control.

That caused several people to overreact and attempt to interfere. They closed in on both sides and his front. Looks like the guy on the right was bumped as he was reaching to pull up his shorts ( I don't think the guy was necessarily doing anything intentionally antagonistic at that time ). Officer's peripheral caught what appeared to be aggression and he reacted appropriately. He saw the guy retreat, told his fellow officer to detain that guy, holstered his firearm. Looked fairly clean to me given the circumstances.

I do not like that way he knelt on the gal. No one would want that for their daughter. But if that was my daughter and she acted that way, I'm not so sure I'd protest too much given the chaos of the situation, and her disregard of the repeated direct order to leave.

Uh, Mr Lee...Ballast Point, Sculpin in a frosty mug...while you wail away at Eruption, please.
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I do not like that way he knelt on the gal. No one would want that for their daughter. But if that was my daughter and she acted that way, I'm not so sure I'd protest too much given the chaos of the situation, and her disregard of the repeated direct order to leave.
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i'm the same way rick, nothing but cat videos and pics of my lunch on my page.

Well, except for that pic of me bangin' that blow up doll wearing the hillary clinton mask, that might be considered political. I think i'll just take it down.
lol....
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I have an issue with the term "drew gun on girl". Every angle I see, he drew the gun in response to the other guys rushing up on him.
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Woman Involved In McKinney Pool Fight Suspended From Job | MadameNoire

Just yesterday, Penny Wrenn wrote about the White woman who initiated the melee that went down at the McKinney, Texas pool party.

The incident that caused people to call the police in the first place was a fight that broke out with Tracey-Carver-Allbritton and a young African American girl. If you’ve seen the video, Allbritton is punching pulling the hair of a young girl.
According to The Daily Kos, Allbritton and another woman were confirmed to have made racist comments that led to the pool party taking a violent turn.

Though much of the attention has been directed at Officer Casebolt; after some investigation and interviews from party attendees, people started asking why the woman who was fighting wasn’t questioned by police or arrested.

Social media users did some research and found that Allbritton worked for Bank of America.

After the video surfaced, an action group Dallas Communities Organizing for Change launched a Twitter campaign asking Bank of America to take action against this woman.

And it seemed to work. Bank of America conducted a investigation and found that Allbritton works for CoreLogic a Bank of America vendor that provides financial profiles to the the larger branch before making mortgage lending decisions.

They released this statement to the Dallas News:


“CoreLogic does not condone violence, discrimination or harassment and takes conduct that is inconsistent with our values and expectations very seriously. As a result of these pending allegations, we have placed the employee in question on administrative leave while further investigations take place.”
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It won't be better. The chief caved due to political and media pressure. He had to say what he did weather he thought so or not. The basic mentality of a Police officer is that any situation is a potential life or death situation. You have to consider that.

What will happen is that with all the coverage of how cops go 'bad' will result in a serious deterioration not unlike the rise in spoiled brat entitled kids. This is not good at all.

How these kids acted tells me all I need to know. This country is losing character.

Let me ask you guys that have kids, what would you think if your kid acted like any of those kids? I would be pissed. Would I be mad at the cop for treating my Daughter like that? Not at all. I would be pissed at her because she didn't do what was the right thing to do was - which is to obey the Police Officers command. Period.

Don't believe me? I have a little story to share about my Son and how he spent 3 days in 'in-school' suspension because of something he may or may not have done. The Asst. Principle called me up, explained what happened. I asked him what the punishment he felt it should be and said a day in 'In-School Suspension" I said give him 3 and call it good. He was shocked, my Son pissed, Mommy upset at me but after it was over, all agreed it was the right thing to do and I was right.

These kids all should have been bulldogged and cowtied.
To answer your question (bolded), I would be downright ashamed of how horribly I'd failed as a parent.
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He did not draw a gun on a girl in a bikini. If you read the link, it sounds like the "party organizer" was every bit as culpable for fighting as the people trying to get the dozens of trespassers she had effectively invited to a "pool party," to leave.

BofA firing that woman just adds to the myriad reasons to never have business dealings with BofA. When you get down to it, this entire episode is the fault of the 19 year old woman who was using this event to promote her "business." She is of course judgement proof, because she has no assets, no job and no reason to fear any consequences for her actions

If I lived in that housing development, the people responsible for this would end up moving. I would spend all my free time harassing them until the left. Not motivated by racism, motivated by not wanting stupid a-holes living near me.

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