“Super Trooper” Cops Crash Pool Party in McKinney, TX (Dallas)

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by 911dean

I don't know, I wasn't there and either were you. I suppose that cop should have let those teens interfere in anyway they saw fit and if he ended up dead or seriously injured so what. They were only kids being kids. Clearly kids don't need to respect authority figures and certainly face no repercussion's for their actions. I guess even tying to take a police officer's weapon from him deserves a free pass if kid does it. I mean what's the worse that could happen a dead officer. So what, just a dumb kid who I'm sure is a victim of something.

The all knowing media just needs to slant a story in any way they see fit. Heck even our president knows when cops act stupidly. They just have no business asking a guy for some ID when he claims he's breaking into his own house. How stupid of them.

Now we are trying to take the cops gun? That's a lot of projection there.

You know why the cop found himself in that situation?

Because his fragile little ego was shattered by a mouthy kid.

You think he called home and cried to mommy?

"Wah, the girl in the bikini challenged my manhood by not walking away fast enough and talkin **** so I showed her who was the boss of her"

[onewhippedpuppy]

Wow there are some strongly emotional anti-cop posts on here. I'd like to hear all of your personal cop abuse stories, obviously you all have been horribly mistreated to react so strongly.

[billh1963]

Originally Posted by speeder

He had more balls than brains at that moment. What would you guys do if you saw some out of control idiot cop absolutely brutalizing your teenaged sister or girlfriend, (when you were a teenager)? How about your teenaged daughter right now? And don't give me your white guy from the suburbs who is 100% law and order so this could never happen BS.

You're at a wedding. Some women or girls start fighting. The cops arrive and one amped-up moron cop grabs your daughter, (who is a bystander), and starts manhandling her as the cop does to the child in the video. She is screaming in pain and terror. What would you do?? I'd probably be dead, shot by the cop if someone touched my sister like that.

The kid has balls. He was going to protect the girl from the cop assaulting her. It's instinctual. He was not drawing an imaginary gun that he didn't have on the cop. No one is that suicidal. I suppose some of you think that the girl might have had a gun in her bikini? You never know with these black people. Can't be too careful.

Brutalizing...really? That's your definition of brutalizing?

Balls or lack of brains? Looks to me like he got caught up in the typical mob mentality that seems rampant these days. Maybe he thought he was going to get a free hit on the cop. These types of characters are cowards...they have no balls at all.

[billh1963]

As I said before, I'm no fan of the current militarized cop situation in this country.

That being said, the current events in Baltimore (crime skyrocketing as police stand down) will be the norm if the media keeps driving this into a frenzy. Our civilization as we know it is very fragile....it wouldn't take much to lose it.

[M.D. Holloway]

Of corse some churchy comes out and is stating that we don't have to fear ISIS rather USIS which is based on an internal struggle of race. I fail to see how this was race related other than some kids were black.

Again, another 'man of God' throwing instead of building.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway

Of corse some churchy comes out and is stating that we don't have to fear ISIS rather USIS which is based on an internal struggle of race. I fail to see how this was race related other than some kids were black.

Again, another 'man of God' throwing instead of building.

The difference is that if I was ever caught on video doing what those kids were doing, the only thing the Priest would be saying is my last rites after my parents got a hold of me.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

And the two girls who came running up from the other side who crouched down in a similar manner only to be shoved off (deservedly) which seems to be what those two guys reacted to?

They are kids, they are often stupid, they do stupid ****.

That's why Mikes kid got 3 days in school suspension.

Not because he's a bad kid but because he's a kid and like I said, they are stupid.

Straight A dean's list Valedictorians are often complete and utter morons.

Ask any parent, if they tell you their kid never did something stupid they are lying.

Yes! I cannot tell my kids to balk when a cop orders something - even if the cop is wrong. Civilians are not in a position to challenge unless in court. You resist regardless and it's open game. Regardless. It has to be.

The issue is simple , somewhere down the line people have lost the respect for Police now it may be the polices fault maybe it's the media maybe it's then churches. Maybe all the above but it's obvious there are growing issues on how the public is now reacting to Police and it truly is going set up for serious social issues.

I like the Mom that smacked her son in his head when she found out he was looting.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Wow there are some strongly emotional anti-cop posts on here. I'd like to hear all of your personal cop abuse stories, obviously you all have been horribly mistreated to react so strongly.

Anti bully.

I don't tolerate them very well.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

The difference is that if I was ever caught on video doing what those kids were doing, the only thing the Priest would be saying is my last rites after my parents got a hold of me.

What were they caught on video doing?

How do we know if they were or were not disciplined when they got home?

[stomachmonkey]

Charges Dropped Against Teen Arrested at McKinney Pool Party | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

Charges were dropped against an 18-year-old who said he won't sue after being arrested at a pool party where video captured a McKinney police officer manhandling a teen and pointing a gun at two others.

In an interview with MSNBC, Adrian Martin said he was trying to calm 15-year-old Dajerria Becton — who was being held down by Cpl. Eric Casebolt — when a friend bumped into him, giving the appearance that he was lunging at the officer.

"When I got bumped towards him, I backed up quite a bit," Martin said. "After I back up, [Casebolt] stands up and looks at me and pulls his pistol out. So that's what kind of made me run away."

Two McKinney police officers ran after Martin. Once he realized it was two different officer chasing him, he stopped and complied with their orders. He said those officers did their jobs properly.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

The difference is that if I was ever caught on video doing what those kids were doing, the only thing the Priest would be saying is my last rites after my parents got a hold of me.

I did not see them doing anything on video other than some of them being very upset over the cop's aggression. They were milling around, standing or sitting on the ground in the video I saw. One was lying on the pavement. They were not dressed like gang members or thugs, (at all), and other than the kid who rushed the cop, I saw total acquiesce to police orders.

The cop was a bully and psychologically unsuited for dealing with the situation. Like his Chief of Police said, "12 officers responded and 11 of them performed according to their training and our policies." Why do so many of you defend bad cops? It's like those old bumper stickers during Nixon's presidency that said, "My Country, Right or Wrong."

Really? Not me. Wrong is wrong. Millions of people have died for our right to stand up to fascist authority. Fk that attitude.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by billh1963

Brutalizing...really? That's your definition of brutalizing?

Balls or lack of brains? Looks to me like he got caught up in the typical mob mentality that seems rampant these days. Maybe he thought he was going to get a free hit on the cop. These types of characters are cowards...they have no balls at all.

When a big strong guy puts his hands on a young girl and starts twisting her arm, pushing her head into the ground and kneeling on her back, yes, that's brutalizing. Now if she had just been doing something awful and violent herself, it might be a different story and justified.

How do you define it? Do you know what the word means? If I saw someone putting their hands on a non-violent young girl like that, I'd want to kill him.

[stomachmonkey]

Arrested McKinney teen says he won

Interview with kid starts around 1:20.

Fairly well spoken intelligent sounding lad.

I get no thug vibe from him.

His explanation certainly fits what we see on video.

Makes a hell of a lot more sense than he lunged at the cop and faked reaching for a non existent gun.

[speeder]

It's just amazing to me how some people see young black kids dressed just fine, doing nothing wrong, (on the video), and assign some criminal element to them that would justify all kinds of police aggression. It's pure racism, which is always rooted in fear and cowardice, to me.

In my apartment building in Los Angeles, there are a handful of young blacks who like to throw a BBQ by the pool on summer weekends or 3-day holidays sometimes. They might fire up a joint and play some music of their choice and they look a lot less Mayberry RFD than the kids in the video, with typical tattoos and urban styled clothing of the current era. Not only are they perfectly friendly and polite to an old white guy, (me), but on a couple of occasions I have asked for a noise reduction or to wrap up the party because it's sleepy time for us old folks and gotten zero lip and good manners in return.

Yes, there are black people, (and white, etc.), who are thugs and bad people. Why is America so afraid of regular blacks? I personally think that a lot of police in America are woefully unexposed to people different from themselves and while not viscous racists, they are afraid of blacks and view them through this fear and unfamiliarity. Same with many here. Not bad people, just very unworldly and afraid.

[foxpaws]

Originally Posted by speeder

I did not see them doing anything on video other than some of them being very upset over the cop's aggression. They were milling around, standing or sitting on the ground in the video I saw. One was lying on the pavement. They were not dressed like gang members or thugs, (at all), and other than the kid who rushed the cop, I saw total acquiesce to police orders.

The cop was a bully and psychologically unsuited for dealing with the situation. Like his Chief of Police said, "12 officers responded and 11 of them performed according to their training and our policies." Why do so many of you defend bad cops? It's like those old bumper stickers during Nixon's presidency that said, "My Country, Right or Wrong."

Really? Not me. Wrong is wrong. Millions of people have died for our right to stand up to fascist authority. Fk that attitude.

Yep - I would imagine if this was a white kid party in the Hamptons, things might have gone down differently.

The cop escalated, exactly what he isn't supposed to do. Coming in swearing at everyone was his first mistake, many more followed.

People making excuses for obviously improper behavior on the officer's part will end up being our mistake. For so many who are fearful of government 'take over' there certainly are a lot who support uniformed thugs.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by speeder

I did not see them doing anything on video other than some of them being very upset over the cop's aggression. They were milling around, standing or sitting on the ground in the video I saw. One was lying on the pavement. They were not dressed like gang members or thugs, (at all), and other than the kid who rushed the cop, I saw total acquiesce to police orders.

The cop was a bully and psychologically unsuited for dealing with the situation. Like his Chief of Police said, "12 officers responded and 11 of them performed according to their training and our policies." Why do so many of you defend bad cops? It's like those old bumper stickers during Nixon's presidency that said, "My Country, Right or Wrong."

Really? Not me. Wrong is wrong. Millions of people have died for our right to stand up to fascist authority. Fk that attitude.

You guys project waayy too much. I have fought bullies all my life but extrapolating fascism from a f'ing video that may not show the right context, etc. is so simple minded I don't know where to begin. And please, put the race card away, you look stupid.

And I don't need a lecture from YOU on fighting for my country.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

You guys project waayy too much. I have fought billies all my life but extrapolating fascism from a f'ing video that may not show the right context, etc. is so simple minded I don't know where to begin. And please, put the race card away, you look stupid.

And I don't need a lecture from YOU on fighting for my country.

Take it easy, that part was not directed at you. Only the first question: what were they doing on the video that would warrant some severe punishment you refer to?

I should have separated the rest of my response into two posts, maybe. I stand by my opinion of what this country is supposed to stand for. And I'm not lecturing YOU but anyone who has paid 50% of their federal income tax their entire life to finance the military budget has a say in what we use them for and what we've fought wars over. What's the point if we allow fascism inside the USA?

The "race card" was played by the cop.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally Posted by foxpaws

Yep - I would imagine if this was a white kid party in the Hamptons, things might have gone down differently.

The cop escalated, exactly what he isn't supposed to do. Coming in swearing at everyone was his first mistake, many more followed.

People making excuses for obviously improper behavior on the officer's part will end up being our mistake. For so many who are fearful of government 'take over' there certainly are a lot who support uniformed thugs.

I've been at parties on the cape, in Newport and throughout Connecticut when cops are called in. The difference are 1) no minorities. 2) the kids scatter / run away but most just sit back and do nothing. None really made a scene and got all animated. None ever approuched the cops. Maybe a few got mouthy and showed off but they were taken away in cuffs.

Rich white kids know who butters the bread. These kids put up the typical 'scene' which pisses off the ROW

[foxpaws]

Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway

I've been at parties on the cape, in Newport and throughout Connecticut when cops are called in. The difference are 1) no minorities. 2) the kids scatter / run away but most just sit back and do nothing. None really made a scene and got all animated. None ever approuched the cops. Maybe a few got mouthy and showed off but they were taken away in cuffs.

Rich white kids know who butters the bread. These kids put up the typical 'scene' which pisses off the ROW

However, I would imagine the cops who were called in at those parties didn't enter the scene swearing at the kids (they too know who butters the bread).

And those white kids also don't have to worry about a certain 'history' when it comes to cops. The black kids at the pool party have cause to fear for their lives when cops come in swearing at them, escalating the situation. I am sure the cops who approached the 'Cape Cod' party, did so with deescalation in mind, and white kids at the Cod have very little to fear with regards that the cops might just kill them because they aren't the 'right' color.

[Noney]

Don't those cops carry pepper spray? This seems like a situation tailor-made for that.

You show up with the intent to disperse a mob/crowd and they don't comply, I would think that waving around pepper spray instead of verbal abuse would go much farther towards getting people to move.

Was dispersion not their goal, what am I missing???